serious football question
Is the Boise State game a lock? I'm hearing 4-0 before the plunger comes out of the closet.
Is Boise State good? We know they have a better coach but uw will have a new stadium. I guess the offense is solid, oline issues though and young corners?
Does UW win rather easily say 35-17?
Sark cannot lose that game, he cant afford to sit ASJ.
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everybody assumes we're gonna win because we're easily a top 15 team at home, our constant crap on the road is why we're gonna win 7 games.
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kind of a mute point since we'll end up at 7 wins and qualify for one of the prestigious 64 bowl slots.
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"lol"dhdawg said:we're easily a top 15 team at home
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I don't know if Boise is good or not, but I do know at the end of the year they'll be a better team than the Dawgs.
We should win the game: at home, new stadium, probably better talent if the truth be know, etc but this is Cream Puff's team. Anything could happen. I'll always pick the team that has good coaching and is tough, physical year in and year out, even if the talent is not always the best. That team is Boise.
The Dawgs have terrible coaching, are bubble bath soft year in and year out, and are highly skilled at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. My pick is Boise State. -
The opener with Boise is just a stepping stone to the New Mexico Bowl.
"Woof"
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I feel like the Huskies will win the Boise game. For Sark to maintain being an average coach he needs to win a few games against decent teams to set up the fact he'll blow one or two games we have no business losing.
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LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
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There was a website, maybe Football Outsiders that had UW ranked in the top 15 at home and like 60th on the road.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
No disrespect to Boise who is extremely well-coached and disciplined- the parallel opposite of UW, but frankly its a middle of the road game on the schedule. Even though Boise's best player will play, UW returns more talent on paper, UW had more talent last year, UW is much tougher at home and most important- its the first game of the season which benefits UW more because it has more experience returning and the coaching advantage for Peterson would be smallest at the start of the year (I.e. His cumulative impact in week 12 would be far greater than in week 1).
UW will win by 10 or 14 and it won't tell us jack shit about the season, though I fully expect local and even national media will make a big deal out of it. Then we'll struggle to beat Illinois which will remind us how mediocre we are.
I think ASJ is suspended for a half or quarter...or maybe even just a series or two. Sark is not going to risk it much. -
Actually, the ASJ punishment will be a good barometer for how secure Sark feels about his job status.HeretoBeatmyChest said:
There was a website, maybe Football Outsiders that had UW ranked in the top 15 at home and like 60th on the road.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
No disrespect to Boise who is extremely well-coached and disciplined- the parallel opposite of UW, but frankly its a middle of the road game on the schedule. Even though Boise's best player will play, UW returns more talent on paper, UW had more talent last year, UW is much tougher at home and most important- its the first game of the season which benefits UW more because it has more experience returning and the coaching advantage for Peterson would be smallest at the start of the year (I.e. His cumulative impact in week 12 would be far greater than in week 1).
UW will win by 10 or 14 and it won't tell us jack shit about the season, though I fully expect local and even national media will make a big deal out of it. Then we'll struggle to beat Illinois which will remind us how mediocre we are.
I think ASJ is suspended for a half or quarter...or maybe even just a series or two. Sark is not going to risk it much. -
Can't really disagree with much of that. Coach Pete's teams typically hit the ground running, but this particular group has yet to prove they can replicate their predecessors. I would be more confident if Southwick hadn't been so average last season. ASJ's status will be critical.....but it will take a serious turnaround in the off-season from this Southwick-led team to win in Seattle. I think we'll return to our Top-15 level in 2014....we're recruiting very well, but this current team still feels very "transitional". I could be proven wrong, but Southwick doesn't breed much confidence in fans.HeretoBeatmyChest said:There was a website, maybe Football Outsiders that had UW ranked in the top 15 at home and like 60th on the road.
No disrespect to Boise who is extremely well-coached and disciplined- the parallel opposite of UW, but frankly its a middle of the road game on the schedule. Even though Boise's best player will play, UW returns more talent on paper, UW had more talent last year, UW is much tougher at home and most important- its the first game of the season which benefits UW more because it has more experience returning and the coaching advantage for Peterson would be smallest at the start of the year (I.e. His cumulative impact in week 12 would be far greater than in week 1).
UW will win by 10 or 14 and it won't tell us jack shit about the season, though I fully expect local and even national media will make a big deal out of it. Then we'll struggle to beat Illinois which will remind us how mediocre we are.
I think ASJ is suspended for a half or quarter...or maybe even just a series or two. Sark is not going to risk it much.
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UWs OL wont improve, the recruiting and coaching has never been there for improvement.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
The mostly likely place for continued improvement for UW would be defense. We actually have a pretty great front 7 on defense, our set of LBs is the best UW has had in awhile, Shelton (DT/NG) is still a beast and only needs a little bit of help from the rest of the DL. The secondary is somewhat unknown but definitely has the talent necessary.
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I don't see how the OL won't improve, although they will still be a below average unit compared to the other teams in the conference.Houhusky said:
UWs OL wont improve, the recruiting and coaching has never been there for improvement.LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
The mostly likely place for continued improvement for UW would be defense. We actually have a pretty great front 7 on defense, our set of LBs is the best UW has had in awhile, Shelton (DT/NG) is still a beast and only needs a little bit of help from the rest of the DL. The secondary is somewhat unknown but definitely has the talent necessary.
I disagree with you about the DL. They are far from great. We have no DT's that are even average Pac 12 players after Shelton. If Shelton goes down, the DL becomes one of the worst in the conference. It's too bad the coaches basically wasted two years of Tokalahi's eligibility (2009, 2011). While he was not a star, we sure could use him this year. The one guy who I am curious about is Josh Banks. He made some plays against Stanford, but got hurt shortly after and didn't do much the rest of the season. He might be our best chance at having another solid DT.
Andrew Hudson is a solid player, but he is too small to play DE in the 3-4. However because we don't have many quality guys, he has to out of necessity. Shirley is a good pass rusher, but is basically useless in stopping the run. Once again, because we don't have enough quality guys, he is forced to play in situations where he ideally should not be playing.
The rest of the guys on the DL either suck (Potoae, Tupou, Finau) or are young with little or no experience (Pio V, Littleton, Cree, Turpin, the 3 incoming FR). Getting Jamora back would be great, but who knows what to expect after two ACL tears. Even if he comes back, will he be any good?
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Agree about the D line. Outside of Shelton they are not very good. The dogboy hype about Shirley I don't get. He is a subpar pass rusher and poor at run blocking. He's too small for a line position and the strength is questionable.
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Lack of a consistent pass rush and lack of pass protection sum up the Huskies lines. This program won't turn the corner until it has a coach running things who is serious about recruiting and developing positions along both lines.
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Exactly. No matter how the schemes and style of play change, football is still the same game. Win the line of scrimmage, win the turnover battle, and you will win almost every game. Until we are consistently the tougher team up front, we will be stuck in mediocrity.Southerndawg said:Lack of a consistent pass rush and lack of pass protection sum up the Huskies lines. This program won't turn the corner until it has a coach running things who is serious about recruiting and developing positions along both lines.
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Boise St is the most prepared team in college football coming out of fall camp. Sark and UW are one of the lease prepared college football teams coming out of fall camp. take the points, bet the farm and retire early. Petersen is arguably the BEST coach in America next to Saban. Sark is arguably the worst coach in America...Who do you think is going to win? Sark, but ONLY because of the crowd. BSU will win in Las Vegas though
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Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
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I have seen Boise State ranked from 15 to 20. Dawgs are ranked around 45.
Is the Boise State game a lock? I'm hearing 4-0 before the plunger comes out of the closet.
Is Boise State good? We know they have a better coach but uw will have a new stadium. I guess the offense is solid, oline issues though and young corners?
Does UW win rather easily say 35-17?
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The new stadium will score at minimum 14 points which together with the 7 points typically assumed for home field advantage, we should have a 21point handicap before the Huskies leave their new locker-room to storm out of the new Tunnel onto the new fieldturf. that should be more than a genius such as Peterson can overcome in a season opener on the road....... providing Sark's new duck wannabe offense can either add to the Huskies' scoreboard or keep from giving points to the mediocre-by-size Broncos.
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Boise St is the most prepared team in college football coming out of fall camp. Sark and UW are one of the lease prepared college football teams coming out of fall camp. take the points, bet the farm and retire early. Petersen is arguably the BEST coach in America next to Saban. Sark is arguably the worst coach in America...Who do you think is going to win? Sark, but ONLY because of the crowd. BSU will win in Las Vegas though
On a neutral field BSU wins. In husky stadium UW will roll.Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)
Listen' I got laughed off dogboy for suggesting they keep 18-20 olinemen on schollie. One of their fucking experts said "no only 16 is necessary". A week fucking later, ON THEIR FUCKING SHOW, Baird said 18-20. NO QUESTION. Those guys are the biggest fucking bunch of sheep over there.Steve_Bowman said:Amen to Road and Southern Dawgs! Football is all about the lines.
Skill players mean very little without good/great lines. I was laughed off Dogboy when I suggested we recruit 5 - 8 offensive linemen this year and at least 5 in 2015, or keep loading up until the problem is fixed. We keep wasting rides on wideouts. Why? Until we can pound it outside and inside with the running game and our D line can blow up opponents offensive lines we don't need one more wideout.
This is basic highschool football. Cream Puff is one stupid ass mo fo not to understand this.
(When seem to be at least recruiting numbers on the defensive side. We'll see if we have the coaching talent to develop them.)
Whatever eklund (never touched a football), Fetters (never touched a diet soda) and Kimmy (never touched a pussy) says people follow. If they'd just give me control dawgman, people would actually show up instead of the same preachers like YALE. Who cares if you went Ivy league. Doesn't matter anymore. The self proclaimed "film expert" is as retarted as Kim is a play analyst. Sick of these band fags pretending they know something about football.
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And Tailgater, you ignorant fuck. The new stadium wont score any points. Watch BSU against the 'Almighty SEC and GEORGIA. Doesn't matter where Petersen plays, his teams are INCREDIBLY disciplined and prepared no matter what. They have a SYSTEM they follow. They stick to it. Unlike Sark who flys by the seat of his pants, especially when he gets down by 3 in the 1st quarter. Its panic time. Abandon the run, go to 2-minute drill and pray for a miracle.Tailgater said:The new stadium will score at minimum 14 points which together with the 7 points typically assumed for home field advantage, we should have a 21point handicap before the Huskies leave their new locker-room to storm out of the new Tunnel onto the new fieldturf. that should be more than a genius such as Peterson can overcome in a season opener on the road....... providing Sark's new duck wannabe offense can either add to the Huskies' scoreboard or keep from giving points to the mediocre-by-size Broncos.
When Petersen gets down, he calmly sticks with the run/pass balanced philosophy that made him the winningest head coach in college football over his tenure.
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You're wrong. The new stadium will add points. It was part of the contract with the Pac 12. If UW removed the track, they would be spotted 14 points in every game. Why else would everyone be so confident we are beating Boise State?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
And Tailgater, you ignorant fuck. The new stadium wont score any points. Watch BSU against the 'Almighty SEC and GEORGIA. Doesn't matter where Petersen plays, his teams are INCREDIBLY disciplined and prepared no matter what. They have a SYSTEM they follow. They stick to it. Unlike Sark who flys by the seat of his pants, especially when he gets down by 3 in the 1st quarter. Its panic time. Abandon the run, go to 2-minute drill and pray for a miracle.Tailgater said:The new stadium will score at minimum 14 points which together with the 7 points typically assumed for home field advantage, we should have a 21point handicap before the Huskies leave their new locker-room to storm out of the new Tunnel onto the new fieldturf. that should be more than a genius such as Peterson can overcome in a season opener on the road....... providing Sark's new duck wannabe offense can either add to the Huskies' scoreboard or keep from giving points to the mediocre-by-size Broncos.
When Petersen gets down, he calmly sticks with the run/pass balanced philosophy that made him the winningest head coach in college football over his tenure.
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Craaaap...hadn't heard about this. That will make for an interesting pregame speech. Down 14 already? Do we at least get the ball first?RoadDawg55 said:
You're wrong. The new stadium will add points. It was part of the contract with the Pac 12. If UW removed the track, they would be spotted 14 points in every game. Why else would everyone be so confident we are beating Boise State?
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Right On! Why else would we build a new stadium and schedule Idaho State. What-oh-what will we do next for easy advantage if the new post-season playoff system decides to not count 1AA cupcake wins for bowl eligibility....... or recognize our 14 point handicap?RoadDawg55 said:
You're wrong. The new stadium will add points. It was part of the contract with the Pac 12. If UW removed the track, they would be spotted 14 points in every game. Why else would everyone be so confident we are beating Boise State?puppylove_sugarsteel said:
And Tailgater, you ignorant fuck. The new stadium wont score any points. Watch BSU against the 'Almighty SEC and GEORGIA. Doesn't matter where Petersen plays, his teams are INCREDIBLY disciplined and prepared no matter what. They have a SYSTEM they follow. They stick to it. Unlike Sark who flys by the seat of his pants, especially when he gets down by 3 in the 1st quarter. Its panic time. Abandon the run, go to 2-minute drill and pray for a miracle.Tailgater said:The new stadium will score at minimum 14 points which together with the 7 points typically assumed for home field advantage, we should have a 21point handicap before the Huskies leave their new locker-room to storm out of the new Tunnel onto the new fieldturf. that should be more than a genius such as Peterson can overcome in a season opener on the road....... providing Sark's new duck wannabe offense can either add to the Huskies' scoreboard or keep from giving points to the mediocre-by-size Broncos.
When Petersen gets down, he calmly sticks with the run/pass balanced philosophy that made him the winningest head coach in college football over his tenure.
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obligatory Boise isn't even a state comment...
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I know this is a joke.....but there are plans to change the schools name to U. of Boise. Give it 3-5 years.Houhusky said:obligatory Boise isn't even a state comment...
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puppylove_sugarsteel said:
Listen' I got laughed off dogboy for suggesting they keep 18-20 olinemen on schollie. One of their fucking experts said "no only 16 is necessary". A week fucking later, ON THEIR FUCKING SHOW, Baird said 18-20. NO QUESTION. Those guys are the biggest fucking bunch of sheep over there.
The concept of recruiting sufficient numbers to maintain OL depth is too technical for the Insider experts at Dm.c. Besides claiming that all OL recruits should come out of high school fully prepared to compete against Pac-12 defenses, Dm.c's experts can't seem to grasp the time needed for kids to develop for the war in the trenches of major college football,....... nor the depth needed to back-up five interior OL positions while anticipating rates of injury or dropout in a typical collegiate program. Assuming a reasonable 20% attrition rate and the time an average OL prospect needs in school to develop, each of five classes including a redshirt class should have close to four scholarship athletes capable of starting at, backing-up, or developing into competitors at each of the five OL positions. In a well managed program built to compete at the highest level, such depth typically computes to 18-20 OLmen on the roster and 4-5 OL recruits each year.
One thing that's always amused me is the Dm.c Insider expert's willingness to follow Cozzetto's lead and list two or more OLmen as starters at one position as well as back-ups at one or two other positions. It's true that some of the more experienced athletes can be penciled as a back-up at more than one position if he isn't starting, but OL starters at least during any week of game preparations are usually anchored at their staring position. But using mirrors makes it appear that 8-10 OLmen is all that's needed to keep a program competitive on the line-of-scrimmage.
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RIP state of Boise. Going the way of the state of Memphis.LocalKineBronco said:
I know this is a joke.....but there are plans to change the schools name to U. of Boise. Give it 3-5 years.Houhusky said:obligatory Boise isn't even a state comment...
I blame Obama.
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When has Sark ever defeated a good opponent by double figures? I can only think of one occasion which was the Holiday Bowl. Also Nebraska didn't want to be there at all.HeretoBeatmyChest said:LocalKineBronco said:LOL Not a ton of confidence in this thread........you're not alone, very few Bronco fans expect to win this game, hell some think we might get smashed.....which is kind of bizarre, considering we beat UW in December minus our best player. I honestly don't know what to expect. Both teams assume certain positions will improve (O-Line for UW, QB/RB/Run blocking for BSU, etc.)....will that be the case? Not sure. I personally don't think we win, but making a prediction seems impossible. So many unknown factors. I do think a lot weighs on whether ASJ plays or not.....which I bet we won't know until game time.
UW will win by 10 or 14 and it won't tell us jack shit about the season, though I fully expect local and even national media will make a big deal out of it. Then we'll struggle to beat Illinois which will remind us how mediocre we are.
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No one said the game was a lock, they were just passing along what they were hearing. You need to learn the difference.
If you are going to make stuff up... well... your just making stuff up.
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