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  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    I don't have a problem with this as long as it's not just used as proxy for greater racial set asides.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,823 Standard Supporter
    Another social justice bunch of bull shit!
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,868 Standard Supporter
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,418
    This is a business move by the College Board. Know that.

    Several elite schools have dropped the SAT as a requirement. Some did a long time ago. But recently the University of Chicago, of all places, joined their ranks. They are fighting to remain relevant.

    One little secret in educational circles is that the SAT is written for one particular paradigm: the New England boarding school student. Those kids do better on that test than pretty much every demographic, and by a margin.

    I have not read them, but I've read reports of the studies that show the #1 predictor of who well you'll do in college is HS GPA coupled with rigor of HS curriculum. Take hard classes, and do well in them, and you won't find college to be much of a challenge. My understanding is that the SAT and ACT are not good predictors in that high scoring and low scoring kids are all over the place in their college performance. But kids who took a heavy course load in HS and did well tend to do well. Shocking result.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,215
    I wasn't aware that Jews and Asians made up a significant portion of the New England boarding school population.

  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited May 2019
    SFGbob said:

    I wasn't aware that Jews and Asians made up a significant portion of the New England boarding school population.

    Wow...

    This escalated quickly
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,418
    SFGbob said:

    I wasn't aware that Jews and Asians made up a significant portion of the New England boarding school population.

    There are plenty of both at New England prep schools. It is the curriculum at those schools, and the things they emphasize, that inform a great deal of what is on the SAT.

    One could argue that the academic barriers to entry to those schools makes that group of students a skewed sample. On many variables, they probably are.

    I just know that I wasn't tasked in HS with analyzing obscure Virginia Wolf essays and passages to the same extent my kids were, and they all did better than I did on the SATs and ACTs.

  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,542
    SFGbob said:

    I wasn't aware that Jews and Asians made up a significant portion of the New England boarding school population.

    Do you have some information on how the New England boarding school population does on the SAT and ACT?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,542

    This is a business move by the College Board. Know that.

    Several elite schools have dropped the SAT as a requirement. Some did a long time ago. But recently the University of Chicago, of all places, joined their ranks. They are fighting to remain relevant.

    One little secret in educational circles is that the SAT is written for one particular paradigm: the New England boarding school student. Those kids do better on that test than pretty much every demographic, and by a margin.

    I have not read them, but I've read reports of the studies that show the #1 predictor of who well you'll do in college is HS GPA coupled with rigor of HS curriculum. Take hard classes, and do well in them, and you won't find college to be much of a challenge. My understanding is that the SAT and ACT are not good predictors in that high scoring and low scoring kids are all over the place in their college performance. But kids who took a heavy course load in HS and did well tend to do well. Shocking result.

    Absolutely. You can attend Bowdoin, Middlebury or Smith--assuming they'll have you--without taking the SAT or the ACT.