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Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
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Something's wrong with you, man. Get a check-up.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
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I can't, I hear the state of Georgia will have me arrested. Weird the way those SAT scores even 30 plus years ago showed that Asians and Jews scored the best. I guess that white privilege has it's limits.HHusky said:
Something's wrong with you, man. Get a check-up.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
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I didn't say that. You said that.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
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And boarding schools have plenty of Jews and Asians. I guess you didn't know that.
A little research, which I hear you're good at, will reveal the history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
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I guess we know how challenging the SAT must have been in your case.SFGbob said:
I can't, I hear the state of Georgia will have me arrested. Weird the way those SAT scores even 30 plus years ago showed that Asians and Jews scored the best. I guess that white privilege has it's limits.HHusky said:
Something's wrong with you, man. Get a check-up.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
Learn something new every day.
You can go to the websites of various prestigious New England Prep Schools-- representing a very small population--and see that their standardized test averages are much higher than the averages of any huge racial demographic, like Asians, to use your example. -
I'm not disputing that NE boarding schools had something to do with the creation of the SAT. Just doubting the Jews and Asians were a significant part of the NE boarding schools going back a long way. Hey could be wrong, maybe I watch too many movies.creepycoug said:
I didn't say that. You said that.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
Learn something new every day.
And boarding schools have plenty of Jews and Asians. I guess you didn't know that.
A little research, which I hear you're good at, will reveal the history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
Some say they haven't strayed very far from their origins. -
Going back a long way? I didn't say that either.SFGbob said:
I'm not disputing that NE boarding schools had something to do with the creation of the SAT. Just doubting the Jews and Asians were a significant part of the NE boarding schools going back a long way. Hey could be wrong, maybe I watch too many movies.creepycoug said:
I didn't say that. You said that.SFGbob said:Who knew that your typical New England bordering school student was either Asian or Jewish.
Learn something new every day.
And boarding schools have plenty of Jews and Asians. I guess you didn't know that.
A little research, which I hear you're good at, will reveal the history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
Some say they haven't strayed very far from their origins.
Today? Yes. Lots of Jews, lots of Asians.
I assumed you brought that up because that demographic does well on standardized tests. At any rate, I didn't say that only NE boarding school kids do well on those tests, so it doesn't matter.
But boarding school group almost uniformly does do well on those tests, and a lot of people who look at these things cite the classical style of education they receive at those schools as one reason for this, since that kind of preparation helps on the tests.
Kids from all over go get coaching and do all manner of other things to give them a leg up. It's not the only way.
Again, The College Board is fighting for their lives. The University of Chicago dropping the requirement is a watershed event. -
Going back a long way? I didn't say that either.
history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
One little secret in educational circles is that the SAT is written for one particular paradigm: the New England boarding school student. Those kids do better on that test than pretty much every demographic, and by a margin.
I don't doubt that boarding schools kids do better on the SAT than your average High School student.
But Jews and Asians, historically not the typical NE boarding school student, have been out performing everyone else on the SAT for many years now. -
The 'going back a long way' part has to do with what the College Board deems is important to test ... the content of the test.SFGbob said:Going back a long way? I didn't say that either.
history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
One little secret in educational circles is that the SAT is written for one particular paradigm: the New England boarding school student. Those kids do better on that test than pretty much every demographic, and by a margin.
I don't doubt that boarding schools kids do better on the SAT than your average High School student.
But Jews and Asians, historically not the typical NE boarding school student, have been out performing everyone else on the SAT.
Jews and Asians have done well on the test by going out and getting the kind of education one needs to do well on the test, along with coaching prep and basically studying the test.
The basic, non-categorical, assertion is that for those who aren't normally exposed to that kind of education have to go out and make up for it some other way. In Seattle, if you attend Lakeside, you are getting an education that was more or less modeled after what you get at Phillips Exeter, and although those kids also do prep and all that, the baseline curriculum prepares them for the exam. If you go to Rainier Beach, not so much, and you're going to have to do more to mimic the kind of exposure that lends to doing well on the test. -
I agree.creepycoug said:
The 'going back a long way' part has to do with what the College Board deems is important to test ... the content of the test.SFGbob said:Going back a long way? I didn't say that either.
history of the College Board goes back a long way and associations with NE boarding schools had much to do with its creation.
One little secret in educational circles is that the SAT is written for one particular paradigm: the New England boarding school student. Those kids do better on that test than pretty much every demographic, and by a margin.
I don't doubt that boarding schools kids do better on the SAT than your average High School student.
But Jews and Asians, historically not the typical NE boarding school student, have been out performing everyone else on the SAT.
Jews and Asians have done well on the test by going out and getting the kind of education one needs to do well on the test, along with coaching prep and basically studying the test.
The basic, non-categorical, assertion is that for those who aren't normally exposed to that kind of education have to go out and make up for it some other way. In Seattle, if you attend Lakeside, you are getting an education that was more or less modeled after what you get at Phillips Exeter, and although those kids also do prep and all that, the baseline curriculum prepares them for the exam. If you go to Rainier Beach, not so much, and you're going to have to do more to mimic the kind of exposure that lends to doing well on the test.
