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  • Doogles
    Doogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,795 Founders Club
    They could start by not stripping players of their eligibility for selling rings they earned on the playing field. That kind of regulation is fucking bull shit.

    I get that some insane big time booster could over pay for the ring and essentially pay the player, but if said athlete gives your school's program the glory of a championship, fuck it that's earned cash.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    RaceBannon said:

    I wasn't in favor of Title 9 when it happened but its settled science. Also most universities aren't profiting by billions. They just aren't. Try to get the treatment you get at UO in a minor league. You won't. The education and training are worth 100K easy. Bust the system and get a fucking bus ride and a broken body for pennies

    http://deadspin.com/no-paying-athletes-wont-bankrupt-college-sports-1502028351

    http://deadspin.com/why-the-arguments-against-ncaa-pay-for-play-suck-1481854847
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,551 Founders Club
    Does collegedoog understand Title 9? No he doesn't. Did he even address my points? No he didn't.

    Play minor league football and get paid what your worth or play college ball and be over paid.

    Tough choice
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,551 Founders Club
    Doogles said:

    They could start by not stripping players of their eligibility for selling rings they earned on the playing field. That kind of regulation is fucking bull shit.

    I get that some insane big time booster could over pay for the ring and essentially pay the player, but if said athlete gives your school's program the glory of a championship, fuck it that's earned cash.

    Players get paid under the table, get no show summer jobs and make valuable contacts for after their free education. It's the only way to work it when the feds treat a girls lacrosse player the same as a football player and make him pay for her sport
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,395 Standard Supporter
    I don't see why they can't give football players a larger stipend. Same with basketball. Tough luck to the other sports that don't make money. That said, the people who think it would eliminate corruption are morons.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited January 2014
    RaceBannon said:

    Does collegedoog understand Title 9? No he doesn't. Did he even address my points? No he didn't.

    Play minor league football and get paid what your worth or play college ball and be over paid.

    Tough choice

    No one playing big time college football is getting overpaid.

    And the employee status would make them exempt from Title IX, though is somewhat disputed.
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  • RavennaDawg
    RavennaDawg Member Posts: 846
    Title IX applies to scholarships. There is no mandate that University employees in general, or employees of the athletic department, have some sort of gender balance.

    College football does not need the NCAA. One of these days the SEC will add FSU and Miami, and say We Can Have SEC College Football without the NCAA, we'll just play ourselves, and pay the players, and people will watch and the SEC will make money.
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  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    RaceBannon said:

    Pay the players? Sure as long as Suzy the softball player gets paid the same. Title 9. Not so easy now. Its not like that money is going in someone's pocket. Its funding the program and all the other programs.

    Title 9 isn't universal in that equal opportunity to play and receive a full ride scholarship can't and won't be the same as equal pay for unequal play. Neither softball nor any women's sport can be considered a vocation when it costs more to play than the earnings generated from playing for the entertainment of paying spectators.

    If anything, paying college athletes could eventually blow Title 9 out of the water with respect to any university's athletic department business contributions from football and men's basketball. No judge living on mars or even in the womb of Women's Liberation could mandate equal pay for unequal play when comparing softball to football. We may be fare in an American way, but we are not communists.

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  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    The best thing to do:

    all fans pay cash, festival seating, bigger stadiums without elite sections, an average stadium should fit 100,000 fans. .... after the game the team that wins gets 2/3 of $$$. Half of that goes to the players, since they are playing FUCKING FOOTBALL GAME.
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  • Tailgater
    Tailgater Member Posts: 1,389
    topdawgnc said:

    doogsinparadise said:

    Pay the players.

    I get colleges are making BIG money off these kids ... no argument there.

    However ...

    I get it ...

    But part of me says ... cut the education, pay them and start a minor league.
    WHOOSH! Way to miss the point by a mile or even farther? What would be the fun in cutting out colleges and universities and giving the revenue sports such as football and men's basketball to minor leagues?

    Get a clue and then you might actually get it. Our higher education system isn't just about education. It's also about entrepreneurialism more and more each day and it's about close relationships between educational disciplines and related commercial/civil fields in business and government.

    Why shouldn't that growing entrepreneurialism join with traditional community relations by having colleges and universities convert competitive associations and conferences into what you call minor leagues? All that's missing is paying the players as they deserve to be paid same as any programmer in computer engineering, lab rat in chemistry or physics, and TA's all over campus.
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