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PSA: Oregon has more white people on the roster than UW
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?jecornel said:
Now that is crazy talk. Have you read the recruiting forum the last four years? How did UW even get a recruit based on that forum? Under the radar recruiting was done with it in like six weeks!! LOLCallMeBigErn said:
DDY has been pushing this "Pete hates black people" and institutional bias narrative since I've been reading this site, and likely before. And we wonder how this all started? He and his cult have started a giant game of Telephone, taken to social media about it, and it's snowballing. Recruits see this shit and seeds of doubt are planted. This is self-sabotage. Ironically, this narrative was started by our own fanbase, right fucking here. Isn't that special? Somebody cut the cord.Pitchfork51 said:What was the impetus to this ridiculous conversation
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Pin thisFremontTroll said:
Plateauing at our current level of success is exactly what I am afraid of.BleachedAnusDawg said:
Ok. I would judge that on wins and losses. Fair?FremontTroll said:
Negatively impacting recruiting going forward.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I think you gotta more specifically define "problem."FremontTroll said:
When does the pattern of struggling to recruit black kids become a problem for you?CallMeBigErn said:
They commit to other programs and you construe that as them saying they have a problem with UW's recruiting or program? You have got to be shitting me with that response. Get over yourself.FremontTroll said:
They said they are committing to other programs.CallMeBigErn said:
Can you please expound on the things Rodgers, Scott, Phillips, Flowe, Ricks, DJ Johnson, Treshaun, and Jeremiah Martin have said about our program? I need those juicy deets.FremontTroll said:
The people we WANT to become associated with the program but aren't converting are the bellwether here not the people that have been all in for years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How about you message board heroes let the actually people associated with the program speak on perceived racism. Maybe our NFL players who promote the program on twitter, or Buffy Miller?jecornel said:Derek might consider rename
That's exactly what Dennis is communicating.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DDY isn't black...BleachedAnusDawg said:
Great non-answer, as always. I give you credit for sticking to your guns no matter how irrational you might sound. Yes, I get it. You're black and only you can understand racism because of that fact. I should trust you when you call something racist no matter how irrational that claim may be.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Watching white people squirm is entertaining.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I get what you're saying and claiming. Labeling OKG as racist, though, implies that Petersen deliberately puts up standards that he believes/thinks/knows that poor black kids can't meet. I don't think that's what you actually believe. If you want to say Pete's OKG standards are biased against people from certain backgrounds I think you'd get more traction there, and I would probably agree with you on some level. Outright and intentional racism though?Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
I appreciate you trying to help out my traction, but I'm doing fine thanks. Only white people don't understand this issue.
Smalls, Rodgers, Scott, Phillips, Flowe, Ricks, DJ Johnson, Treshaun, Jeremiah Martin, etc are saying they have a problem with our recruiting or program.
Maybe we should hear that and adapt.
If UW signs 6 or fewer black kids in 2020 like they did in 2019 will that be a problem?
If Pete continues winning 10+ games a year with his current system do you see anything changing? He would say his system works and recruiting is working in that scenario. -
Yes, very different human beings outside of the game, but on Saturday very similar people Thoroughly convinced they were better.RaceBannon said:
Michael Irvin and Stan Emptermann could not be more different in upbringing and color yet both provided that vital leadership that said - follow me boys we're going to fuck some people up todaycreepycoug said:
I think OKG is stupid, but isn't it itself racist to assume that OKG doesn't include black people, or somehow discriminates against them? Black dudes can be OKG much as white people. Otherwise, Pete would have to just have an issue with black people, and I don't think he does.Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
If this is about what Race was discussing the other day, different deal. You can (and should) recruit a few maniacs, and they come in all colors, shapes and sizes.
Stan was more feared than any opponent or coach. I'm not sure if Michael led in exactly that way, I saw him more as get on my back we got these fuckers beat. We're better than them
Current UW and most teams since most teams are losers go into a game wondering if they can win - like out post season games. By the time they realize they can its too late. They lost -
Lol whitesplaining. Fuck outta here.NorwegianHusky said:
I'm guessing "Team white people who think they understand racism better than black people talking down to them and whitesplaining how something isn't actually racism" was too wordy?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Consult @MikeDamone , the inventor of the term pressing.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Pressing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Accusations of racism in recruiting is a huge fucking deal. Some name some people besides message board posters who are even entertaining this idea.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's funny watching reality set in on a white person.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No black person has gone on the record publically to say this. It's all a bunch of white people on message boards.Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
Name one person who has said it.
The only people construing it as racist are you idiots.
THIS CAN'T BE!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!
If there are none, STFU
Wait, we already know he is on team reality. -
Epic virtual signaling.NorwegianHusky said:
I'm guessing "Team white people who think they understand racism better than black people talking down to them and whitesplaining how something isn't actually racism" was too wordy?PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Consult @MikeDamone , the inventor of the term pressing.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Pressing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Accusations of racism in recruiting is a huge fucking deal. Some name some people besides message board posters who are even entertaining this idea.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's funny watching reality set in on a white person.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No black person has gone on the record publically to say this. It's all a bunch of white people on message boards.Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
Name one person who has said it.
The only people construing it as racist are you idiots.
THIS CAN'T BE!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!
If there are none, STFU
Wait, we already know he is on team reality. -
This is literally a page from the Democratic Party. The white democrat plantation owners are gunna protect the poor black folk because dems don’t think black people can take care of themselves. Can’t even get ID.Dennis_DeYoung said:
I love white paternalism. I know you understand racism better than us, please educate me and my people how we can serve you better and make you more comfortable!BleachedAnusDawg said:
Great non-answer, as always. I give you credit for sticking to your guns no matter how irrational you might sound. Yes, I get it. You're black and only you can understand racism because of that fact. I should trust you when you call something racist no matter how irrational that claim may be.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Watching white people squirm is entertaining.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I get what you're saying and claiming. Labeling OKG as racist, though, implies that Petersen deliberately puts up standards that he believes/thinks/knows that poor black kids can't meet. I don't think that's what you actually believe. If you want to say Pete's OKG standards are biased against people from certain backgrounds I think you'd get more traction there, and I would probably agree with you on some level. Outright and intentional racism though?Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
I appreciate you trying to help out my traction, but I'm doing fine thanks. Only white people don't understand this issue.
Sorry for being IRRATIONAL!!! Really sucks to be labeled as irrational. Hate that. I enjoy the calm, clear reasoning of the white mind.
Oh, Sav'ell dropped us. Did you hear? Wanna know why?
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Shall I call DDY out as "Syphilis Superiority Guy" or leave it alone since he prolly hasn't slept in 48 hours?Dennis_DeYoung said:
Your syphilitic brain still manages to function sometimes.Pitchfork51 said:
The more okg uw is the betterDennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
I want u guys to have men of character
Grinders so to speak
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Now THAT is some serious fucking irony, right there.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Pressing.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
Accusations of racism in recruiting is a huge fucking deal. Some name some people besides message board posters who are even entertaining this idea.Dennis_DeYoung said:
It's funny watching reality set in on a white person.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
No black person has gone on the record publically to say this. It's all a bunch of white people on message boards.Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
Name one person who has said it.
The only people construing it as racist are you idiots.
THIS CAN'T BE!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!!
If there are none, STFU -
This is all incredibly reminiscent of the 2 years preceding Willingham.Fenderbender123 said:So if I understand this correctly, it seems like Dennis is trying to point out that the perception is there. Which is fair.
But what others are trying to point out is that perception alone isn't proof that racism exists. And if there is no proof that it exists, then we should assume it doesn't. So where are we supposed to go from there?
"Let's hire a black coach. That'll solve the problem." Well, did it? -
You had me at Octoroon.StrongArmCobra said:
Never, because the demographics have changed. Mixed-black recruits outnumber full-black recruits out West. That's not a problem. It just is what is it is. The mixed-black kids and poly kids are the majority of the top talent out West and that will continue going forward. We do very well with those two demographics so we're fine. Out of the few full-black recruits out West this cycle, we're doing pretty well with some of them. Bijan Robinson, Jordan Banks, and Kourt Williams are legitimately interested and I think we could get two of them. Ringo was interested before he fell in love with Texas and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with UW if a kid likes Texas more than us. They're TEXAS for fuck sake. Not a bad school or program to be interested in. I still think Jimmy Lake will find a way to get us back in that one.FremontTroll said:
When does the pattern of struggling to recruit black kids become a problem for you?CallMeBigErn said:
They commit to other programs and you construe that as them saying they have a problem with UW's recruiting or program? You have got to be shitting me with that response. Get over yourself.FremontTroll said:
They said they are committing to other programs.CallMeBigErn said:
Can you please expound on the things Rodgers, Scott, Phillips, Flowe, Ricks, DJ Johnson, Treshaun, and Jeremiah Martin have said about our program? I need those juicy deets.FremontTroll said:
The people we WANT to become associated with the program but aren't converting are the bellwether here not the people that have been all in for years.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
How about you message board heroes let the actually people associated with the program speak on perceived racism. Maybe our NFL players who promote the program on twitter, or Buffy Miller?jecornel said:Derek might consider rename
That's exactly what Dennis is communicating.PostGameOrangeSlices said:
DDY isn't black...BleachedAnusDawg said:
Great non-answer, as always. I give you credit for sticking to your guns no matter how irrational you might sound. Yes, I get it. You're black and only you can understand racism because of that fact. I should trust you when you call something racist no matter how irrational that claim may be.Dennis_DeYoung said:
Watching white people squirm is entertaining.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I get what you're saying and claiming. Labeling OKG as racist, though, implies that Petersen deliberately puts up standards that he believes/thinks/knows that poor black kids can't meet. I don't think that's what you actually believe. If you want to say Pete's OKG standards are biased against people from certain backgrounds I think you'd get more traction there, and I would probably agree with you on some level. Outright and intentional racism though?Dennis_DeYoung said:Black people: “yeah I definitely see how OKG stuff could be construed as racist”
White people: “I don’t”
I appreciate you trying to help out my traction, but I'm doing fine thanks. Only white people don't understand this issue.
Smalls, Rodgers, Scott, Phillips, Flowe, Ricks, DJ Johnson, Treshaun, Jeremiah Martin, etc are saying they have a problem with our recruiting or program.
Maybe we should hear that and adapt.
If UW signs 6 or fewer black kids in 2020 like they did in 2019 will that be a problem?
All of this is much ado about nothing. The bottom line is the four main demographics for football talent out West are mixed-black, poly, white, and full-black. Three out of those four demographics love the built for life shit UW is selling. That means we have a pretty diverse recruiting pool to select from. Some schools like Nebraska and Wisconsin are stuck having to recruit mostly white kids. Some schools are stuck having to recruit mostly full-black kids. But UW's recruiting is way more flexible to the point the coaches don't have to worry about it and they can just recruit OKG's off all races and whoever wants to be a Dawg can be a Dawg.
This is not a problem and the "perception" is not a problem either. If some of the few full-black kids out West feel like they don't fit UW's culture that's fine, we'll replace them with the mixed-black kids who outnumber them anyways and a few African kids. That's the truth of the matter. We don't need to get a lot of them to win a national championship. In any given class, in the entire Western region of the U.S., there might only be 10 full-black football recruits who are UW caliber players. That's it. The demographics have changed that much the past 20 years. Some of them aren't OKG's and some of them just aren't interested. I expect us to get 2-3 of them per cycle. The rest will be mixed-black, poly, white, and maybe one or two Africans if we're lucky. Get used to it. It's the way it is now. The coaches can't control the demographics of the talent pool available to them.
