Browning: shooting in the dark
This raises so many questions. What was the UW coaching staff doing to help? They couldn't identify his poor mechanics? Do they need a QB specialist? Why didn't he seek out this help earlier in his career? I thought Socha was elite for strentgh training? Browning also claims to be workout warrior? That is really hard to believe.
Rumor has it that "training table" is essentially cafeteria food. You have a coaching staff and the AD combining for 7 million in pay but you are feeding these guys slop? Guys decide senior year they are going to stop eating Taco Bell? But the alternative is hall food? At least there is coconut water?
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let's maybe not give Browning so much credibility so easily on the way he passive aggressively throws the UW coaches under the bus. he and his agent have 140,000 reasons to pretend that his arm is actually good.jecornel said:Through numerous interviews of late Browning has said he had been searching for answers to improve arm strength. That no one was providing a path to a stronger arm that he was shooting in the dark. It wasn't until he went down to California to work with 3DQB. They figured out he wasn't correctly using his lower body with his throwing mechanics. He was able to improve his throwing velocity to 54 mph which matched the Jones & Lock. (Haskins 52mph) Let's see the velocity with Frank Clark barrelling down on him.
This raises so many questions. What was the UW coaching staff doing to help? They couldn't identify his poor mechanics? Do they need a QB specialist? Why didn't he seek out this help earlier in his career? I thought Socha was elite for strentgh training? Browning also claims to be workout warrior? That is really hard to believe.
Rumor has it that "training table" is essentially cafeteria food. You have a coaching staff and the AD combining for 7 million in pay but you are feeding these guys slop? Guys decide senior year they are going to stop eating Taco Bell? But the alternative is hall food? At least there is coconut water?
we've seen 4 years of tape that proves his head is as bad as his shoulder. -
Hi didnt need to get better when he was a 4 year starter and knew no one would challenge him.
Suddenly now that he's the scrub he realizes he needs to put in some effort. -
Browning has a well documented accountability problem
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I agree. It also comes across as veiled shots.LoneStarDawg said:Browning has a well documented accountability problem
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Obviously there are tweaks and throwing mechanisms you can adjust, but I always thought arm strength was like pitching speed in baseball. You generally have it or you don't, no?
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Yes, but Browning's camp is essentially saying he was never taught how to throw the ball correctly so his true velocity was never seen.Gladstone said:Obviously there are tweaks and throwing mechanisms you can adjust, but I always thought arm strength was like pitching speed in baseball. You generally have it or you don't, no?
Like spinning it to the Mariners it wasn't his fault for pitching underhand rec league softball style for the Raineers in a desperate plea for a call up. -
Something changed. His ball velocity matched Jones & Lock at the combine. (54mph)Doogles said:
Yes, but Browning's camp is essentially saying he was never taught how to throw the ball correctly so his true velocity was never seen.Gladstone said:Obviously there are tweaks and throwing mechanisms you can adjust, but I always thought arm strength was like pitching speed in baseball. You generally have it or you don't, no?
Like spinning it to the Mariners it wasn't his fault for pitching underhand rec league softball style for the Raineers in a desperate plea for a call up. -
The training table food is slop but somehow the rowing team continues to crank out team national titles and V8 near misses.
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Vorel needs to earn some street cred and ask peterman if the issue was that the qb was never given proper training or if he brushed it aside.
He won’t, peterman would never give a truthful answer.
Either we’re looking bad or shitsocks is looking bad and right now shitsocks is making dickman and bush look bad. -
Rich white kids from Laurel Hurst. Eating at home.whlinder said:The training table food is slop but somehow the rowing team continues to crank out team national titles and V8 near misses.
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UW’s poor Development and nutrition really screwed over McGary, Murphy, Sample, Rapp, Gainsey, BBK, Miller and Gaskinjecornel said:Through numerous interviews of late Browning has said he had been searching for answers to improve arm strength. That no one was providing a path to a stronger arm that he was shooting in the dark. It wasn't until he went down to California to work with 3DQB. They figured out he wasn't correctly using his lower body with his throwing mechanics. He was able to improve his throwing velocity to 54 mph which matched the Jones & Lock. (Haskins 52mph) Let's see the velocity with Frank Clark barrelling down on him.
This raises so many questions. What was the UW coaching staff doing to help? They couldn't identify his poor mechanics? Do they need a QB specialist? Why didn't he seek out this help earlier in his career? I thought Socha was elite for strentgh training? Browning also claims to be workout warrior? That is really hard to believe.
Rumor has it that "training table" is essentially cafeteria food. You have a coaching staff and the AD combining for 7 million in pay but you are feeding these guys slop? Guys decide senior year they are going to stop eating Taco Bell? But the alternative is hall food? At least there is coconut water? -
You’re 💯 right!Baseman said:
UW’s poor Development and nutrition really screwed over McGary, Murphy, Sample, Rapp, Gainsey, BBK, Miller and Gaskinjecornel said:Through numerous interviews of late Browning has said he had been searching for answers to improve arm strength. That no one was providing a path to a stronger arm that he was shooting in the dark. It wasn't until he went down to California to work with 3DQB. They figured out he wasn't correctly using his lower body with his throwing mechanics. He was able to improve his throwing velocity to 54 mph which matched the Jones & Lock. (Haskins 52mph) Let's see the velocity with Frank Clark barrelling down on him.
This raises so many questions. What was the UW coaching staff doing to help? They couldn't identify his poor mechanics? Do they need a QB specialist? Why didn't he seek out this help earlier in his career? I thought Socha was elite for strentgh training? Browning also claims to be workout warrior? That is really hard to believe.
Rumor has it that "training table" is essentially cafeteria food. You have a coaching staff and the AD combining for 7 million in pay but you are feeding these guys slop? Guys decide senior year they are going to stop eating Taco Bell? But the alternative is hall food? At least there is coconut water?
Though we question some of those shit stains recruiting abilities, most have proven they can coach.
Fuck Lubbock for what happened with WR’s and hopefully jr can fix that BUuuuuuUUuTtttt who gets blamed for the lack of qb development? You can’t give kudos to the coaches for the 8 drafted and not acknowledge the failure of qb play.
I’m calling out dickbush for this debacle. -
Yes, the change was no defenders to give him brain lock or chase him 20 yards backwards...without a choice to make and with no adversity he showed average arm strength...as soon as he is in live action he'll revert to his below average arm strength and poor decision-making that we saw in every game with a modicum of pass rush.jecornel said:
Something changed. His ball velocity matched Jones & Lock at the combine. (54mph)Doogles said:
Yes, but Browning's camp is essentially saying he was never taught how to throw the ball correctly so his true velocity was never seen.Gladstone said:Obviously there are tweaks and throwing mechanisms you can adjust, but I always thought arm strength was like pitching speed in baseball. You generally have it or you don't, no?
Like spinning it to the Mariners it wasn't his fault for pitching underhand rec league softball style for the Raineers in a desperate plea for a call up. -
I read somewhere Bush tried to get Brownsocks to go to 3DQB before his senior year and according to Browning it just didn’t work out.
Of course with Bush shiteing the bed with Sirmon/Yankoff I think that’s as much of an indictment on him as it is Browning. -
That piece was A LOT to unpack. A couple thoughts...jecornel said:Through numerous interviews of late Browning has said he had been searching for answers to improve arm strength. That no one was providing a path to a stronger arm that he was shooting in the dark. It wasn't until he went down to California to work with 3DQB. They figured out he wasn't correctly using his lower body with his throwing mechanics. He was able to improve his throwing velocity to 54 mph which matched the Jones & Lock. (Haskins 52mph) Let's see the velocity with Frank Clark barrelling down on him.
This raises so many questions. What was the UW coaching staff doing to help? They couldn't identify his poor mechanics? Do they need a QB specialist? Why didn't he seek out this help earlier in his career? I thought Socha was elite for strentgh training? Browning also claims to be workout warrior? That is really hard to believe.
Rumor has it that "training table" is essentially cafeteria food. You have a coaching staff and the AD combining for 7 million in pay but you are feeding these guys slop? Guys decide senior year they are going to stop eating Taco Bell? But the alternative is hall food? At least there is coconut water?
1) This is definite spin/propaganda but I also believe Jake to an extent. IMO, this sounds like a situation where JB needed someone/something different (and Tom House is definitely different) than what he was being provided at UW. This happens with pitchers all the time. Google "Driveline baseball". They take (successful) guys and totally rework them. It's pretty interesting.
2) Guys leaving CFB/CBB and "improving" is not new... In fact, it's probably necessary. There are strict coaching limits in college and once they get out of class and devote all their time to practice/training, major changes will happen. In terms of his throwing motion... Aaron Rodgers, coached by Jeff Tedford (whose dick remains constantly sucked on this board), had to change everything once he got to Green Bay after being productive as shit in college. This is not unique.
3) I'm not sure what "cafeteria food" means. I'm confident the resources are there. Did you guys see how some of those Clemson kids eyes lit up at a fucking Filet O'Fish? At some point, broke and calorically deficient college kids are gonna eat some shitty food. This is UW propaganda but worth reading: https://www.uwtyeeclub.com/article/training-table/
4) I do think it highlights some of the process issues CP and company have had at QB since post-Kellen Moore at BSU. Ugh. -
Back in the day it was possible to live on 2 grilled stuff burritos a day
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I'm so happy to have Browning fuck off forever. The vikings will soon find out what everyone in Seattle already knows. Lousy player, worse attitude. How can someone that shitty be so entitled?
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F Jake...from the Athletic:
https://theathletic.com/853487/2019/03/06/washington-huskies-nfl-combine-jake-browning-byron-murphy/
Browning said he first learned about 3DQB through UW offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan, and tried to arrange a trip there before his senior season but “it just kind of didn’t work out.” He said as soon as the Huskies defeated Utah in the Pac-12 Championship Game, he began making plans to train there.
It is pretty much illegal for Hamdan or anybody on the coaching staff to spend tons of time (2 months straight, probably 30 hours a week) with Jake in the off-season to correct his throwing motion and teach him how to throw. Bush deserves a boatload of blame for the crappy offenses, completely mismanaging the QB room, and all sorts of stuff, but he specifically introduced Jake to 3DQB and tried to get him to go down there before the 2018 season to work on his arm. Jake didn't put in the time/effort...specifically said “it just kind of didn’t work out”, and is now throwing the people who tried to get him to improve himself under the bus.
Lazy @ss...
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yes, because Jake Browning already thought he was not the problem. As soon as the draft grades came in and his future options were "get drafted or sell insurance" he went to a QB camp and started a narrative about throwing frozen ropes now that he finally learned how to throw. Again, fuck that guy.HoustonHusky said:F Jake...from the Athletic:
https://theathletic.com/853487/2019/03/06/washington-huskies-nfl-combine-jake-browning-byron-murphy/
Browning said he first learned about 3DQB through UW offensive coordinator Bush Hamdan, and tried to arrange a trip there before his senior season but “it just kind of didn’t work out.” He said as soon as the Huskies defeated Utah in the Pac-12 Championship Game, he began making plans to train there.
It is pretty much illegal for Hamdan or anybody on the coaching staff to spend tons of time (2 months straight, probably 30 hours a week) with Jake in the off-season to correct his throwing motion and teach him how to throw. Bush deserves a boatload of blame for the crappy offenses, completely mismanaging the QB room, and all sorts of stuff, but he specifically introduced Jake to 3DQB and tried to get him to go down there before the 2018 season to work on his arm. Jake didn't put in the time/effort...specifically said “it just kind of didn’t work out”, and is now throwing the people who tried to get him to improve himself under the bus.
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Tyee should not be responsible for supporting the training table. When you serve a large number of athletes you simply cannot provide high-quality food en masse. Most of it is highly processed foods so it doesn't spoil. I have seen the food, and I have seen the food before game day.
Yes, agreed college kids are going to eat shitty food. 100%. Unavoidable. Plus it is cheap. To do a proper supplement regimen and quality food is very expensive. People would be very surprised how little additional income student-athletes have.
The limited time spent with the kids is certainly an issue. UW needs to hire a QB coach. That is crystal clear. -
Clemson partners with Aramark (Prison and Dining Hall food leader) and provides "a self-made smoothie bar, a soup bar, a meat-and-three buffet, a salad bar, a bread bar and an ice cream bar. There are also discussions they will have everyday items like hamburgers, pizza and hotdogs as well." They also feed them Gatorade chews and PB&Js. Not exactly gourmet.jecornel said:Tyee should not be responsible for supporting the training table. When you serve a large number of athletes you simply cannot provide high-quality food en masse. Most of it is highly processed foods so it doesn't spoil. I have seen the food, and I have seen the food before game day.
Yes, agreed college kids are going to eat shitty food. 100%. Unavoidable. Plus it is cheap. To do a proper supplement regimen and quality food is very expensive. People would be very surprised how little additional income student-athletes have.
The limited time spent with the kids is certainly an issue. UW needs to hire a QB coach. That is crystal clear.
One huge difference for Clemson is that it's football only, which absolutely matters. -
The staff did do a disservice to Jake by never recruiting someone who would push him.
This just comes across as whiny and classic Jake blaming others for. -
UW needs to hire a real OC, but that wouldn't have fixed Browning's throwing motion. By NCAA regs nobody on UW's staff could have spent the time 3DQB did with Browning to fix his throwing motion. That's something he had to take on himself, and unfortunately he chose not to do it until after college.jecornel said:Tyee should not be responsible for supporting the training table. When you serve a large number of athletes you simply cannot provide high-quality food en masse. Most of it is highly processed foods so it doesn't spoil. I have seen the food, and I have seen the food before game day.
Yes, agreed college kids are going to eat shitty food. 100%. Unavoidable. Plus it is cheap. To do a proper supplement regimen and quality food is very expensive. People would be very surprised how little additional income student-athletes have.
The limited time spent with the kids is certainly an issue. UW needs to hire a QB coach. That is crystal clear. -
http://footballscoop.com/news/alabama-gives-tour-new-25000-square-foot-nutrition-facility/tysenallumbaugh said:
Clemson partners with Aramark (Prison and Dining Hall food leader) and provides "a self-made smoothie bar, a soup bar, a meat-and-three buffet, a salad bar, a bread bar and an ice cream bar. There are also discussions they will have everyday items like hamburgers, pizza and hotdogs as well." They also feed them Gatorade chews and PB&Js. Not exactly gourmet.jecornel said:Tyee should not be responsible for supporting the training table. When you serve a large number of athletes you simply cannot provide high-quality food en masse. Most of it is highly processed foods so it doesn't spoil. I have seen the food, and I have seen the food before game day.
Yes, agreed college kids are going to eat shitty food. 100%. Unavoidable. Plus it is cheap. To do a proper supplement regimen and quality food is very expensive. People would be very surprised how little additional income student-athletes have.
The limited time spent with the kids is certainly an issue. UW needs to hire a QB coach. That is crystal clear.
One huge difference for Clemson is that it's football only, which absolutely matters.
Bama's 15 million dollar football-only nutrition facility, comes with 5 full-time trained chefs and four dietitians. If you watched any of ESPN's 'Training Days: Rolling with the Tide' thing, you saw these kids literally have lobster and steak offered every night. It was incredible in one of the segments when they were talking about the quantity of food that is processed daily at that place.
