Counted 34 white faces for our Dawgs... Who's the racist now?!?!?!?!!?!!
This is seriously embarrassing shit.
Walk ons.
If you guys want to live in a world where UW didn't pivot to recruting more Poly and to a lesser degree white dudes and far less black dudes in the last two classes then have fun.
We are in a post-fact world anyway.
You get proven wrong and this is your reply? What the fuck is your point? Poly culture jives tremendously well with Pete's culture, and that's why we're cleaning house in Poly recruiting. Pete would be stupid to not pursue that angle. We're not required to fill a race quota here. We go after guys who want to be Dawgs and grind. We're not going to pursue primadonnas and jive ass motherfuckers. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, yellow, or blue. I can't believe this shit.
No shit. No shit. No shit. No shit.
Did you not read my original post where I said obviously our recruiting approach and OKG/Built for Life theme is not intentionally racist but that it has had an adverse impact- namely- less black players?
That doesn't mean that the poly movement is bad or a net negative or unfair or anything else. Just means that we are prone to being negatively recruited by Oregon with certain recruits.
Oregon's 2019 recruiting class by my estimation:
17 black 5 poly 5 white (3 non Kicker/QB category)
UW:
10 poly 6 black 6 white 1 asian
Also I'm not going to go into DDY's one/two black parents theory but lets just say #teamlightskin appear to be much higher represented at UW than Oregon.
8 of those black players came from Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee. You know, where Cristobal recruits. You know, where there's a lot more black football players than out west. UW got a lot of guys from Hawaii. You know, where they recruit. You know, where there's lots of Poly guys. Nice use of one data point that can be easily explained. You were saying something about considering other variables?
So you now concede there is a significant difference in roster makeup, especially in the last two classes?
Thanks. That was my entire point.
I don't care about how/why we reached that outcome. In fact I said multiple times CP and staff are obviously not intentionally racist.
But if their strategy and approach lead to outcome of less black players then we will be negatively recruited on that basis.
It is what it is. If you want to put blinders on and pretend that Oregon is being underhanded rather than simply playing the cards they are dealt then that is on you.
By saying they're not intentionally racist, you're saying they're racist.
Disagree, but if you feel I need to make it clearer I will re-state.
CP and staff have no racist animus, intent, or unconscious bias.
But their recruiting process still has a disparate impact on black recruits as evidenced by the demographic shift to more poly and white players and less black players.
We could use the same argument for Poly bias against Oregon. "Hey, Makalakafakalua, look here, Oregon only took 5 Polys in the last class and we took 10! Oregon culture clearly doesn't fit with Poly culture like it does at UW. You wouldn't fit in there."
Counted 34 white faces for our Dawgs... Who's the racist now?!?!?!?!!?!!
This is seriously embarrassing shit.
Walk ons.
If you guys want to live in a world where UW didn't pivot to recruting more Poly and to a lesser degree white dudes and far less black dudes in the last two classes then have fun.
We are in a post-fact world anyway.
You get proven wrong and this is your reply? What the fuck is your point? Poly culture jives tremendously well with Pete's culture, and that's why we're cleaning house in Poly recruiting. Pete would be stupid to not pursue that angle. We're not required to fill a race quota here. We go after guys who want to be Dawgs and grind. We're not going to pursue primadonnas and jive ass motherfuckers. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, yellow, or blue. I can't believe this shit.
No shit. No shit. No shit. No shit.
Did you not read my original post where I said obviously our recruiting approach and OKG/Built for Life theme is not intentionally racist but that it has had an adverse impact- namely- less black players?
That doesn't mean that the poly movement is bad or a net negative or unfair or anything else. Just means that we are prone to being negatively recruited by Oregon with certain recruits.
Oregon's 2019 recruiting class by my estimation:
17 black 5 poly 5 white (3 non Kicker/QB category)
UW:
10 poly 6 black 6 white 1 asian
Also I'm not going to go into DDY's one/two black parents theory but lets just say #teamlightskin appear to be much higher represented at UW than Oregon.
8 of those black players came from Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and Tennessee. You know, where Cristobal recruits. You know, where there's a lot more black football players than out west. UW got a lot of guys from Hawaii. You know, where they recruit. You know, where there's lots of Poly guys. Nice use of one data point that can be easily explained. You were saying something about considering other variables?
So you now concede there is a significant difference in roster makeup, especially in the last two classes?
Thanks. That was my entire point.
I don't care about how/why we reached that outcome. In fact I said multiple times CP and staff are obviously not intentionally racist.
But if their strategy and approach lead to outcome of less black players then we will be negatively recruited on that basis.
It is what it is. If you want to put blinders on and pretend that Oregon is being underhanded rather than simply playing the cards they are dealt then that is on you.
By saying they're not intentionally racist, you're saying they're racist.
Disagree, but if you feel I need to make it clearer I will re-state.
CP and staff have no racist animus, intent, or unconscious bias.
But their recruiting process still has a disparate impact on black recruits as evidenced by the demographic shift to more poly and white players and less black players.
We could use the same argument for Poly bias against Oregon. "Hey, Makalakafakalua, look here, Oregon only took 5 Polys in the last class and we took 10! Oregon culture clearly doesn't fit with Poly culture like it does at UW. You wouldn't fit in there."
You think we don't use our poly culture and representation in comparison to other programs as a major selling point?
More of a positive one than a negative one but it is similar.
The difference is that black people have dominated football rosters ever since whitey allowed them to play. So having a roster that is disproportionately non-black is susceptible to negative recruiting whereas the poly player pool is much smaller so only having a few polys can't really be negatively recruited as much as having a disproportionately high poly representation can be postively emphasized.
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
Tell me more about the nuances of the black experience in America big guy!
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
Tell me more about the nuances of the black experience in America big guy!
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Not a good look for you, honestly. When the parents of black players say youre full of shit you know you're pressing. And you continue to full court press. Is Jordan Miller not black enough for you? Jesus
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Not a good look for you, honestly. When the parents of black players say youre full of shit you know you're pressing. And you continue to full court press. Is Jordan Miller not black enough for you? Jesus
Players of parents probably aren't the most objective of sources. Especially when that player had a good experience in the program, was developed, and got drafted. Really strange argument.
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Wait, I thought Nigerians and the decedents of slaves are the same?!?!! NO!?!?! But they ALL HAVE BLACK SKIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Wait, I thought Nigerians and the decedents of slaves are the same?!?!! NO!?!?! But they ALL HAVE BLACK SKIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
Yeah, I wonder why! lololol
Keep going guys, you are doing super well.
Obama married Michelle so I am sure all the cultural differences have been washed away.
Lets take a field trip to the CD (do black people still live there?) and ask black people how they feel about Africans.
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Wait, I thought Nigerians and the decedents of slaves are the same?!?!! NO!?!?! But they ALL HAVE BLACK SKIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
Yeah, I wonder why! lololol
Keep going guys, you are doing super well.
Are mixed black people not descendants of slaves, too? You seem to have an issue with mixed players. Im trying to keep up with your logic. You see, in America today almost all descendants of slaves from hundreds of years ago have some white ancestry.
What percentage of white ancestry makes you mixed versus black? Do you just judge by shade of skin? Answer the fucking question.
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Not a good look for you, honestly. When the parents of black players say youre full of shit you know you're pressing. And you continue to full court press. Is Jordan Miller not black enough for you? Jesus
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Wait, I thought Nigerians and the decedents of slaves are the same?!?!! NO!?!?! But they ALL HAVE BLACK SKIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
Yeah, I wonder why! lololol
Keep going guys, you are doing super well.
Are mixed black people not descendants of slaves, too? You seem to have an issue with mixed players. Im trying to keep up with your logic. You see, almost all descendants of slaves from hundreds of years ago have some white ancestry.
What percentage of white ancestry makes you mixed versus black? Do you just judge by shade of skin? Answer the fucking question.
This can't be a real question, can it? lololololol
Keep firing away your questions on 'ask a black man'! There are no stupid questions. Keep 'em coming and I will gather them all and answer all at once.
You guys will be jiving with the homeboys in no time!
I'm glad the wokest and most progressive of our fans are perpetuating the myth that our program is somehow excluding black people with 2 black parents. Not mixed black people, not black people with African parents, but only black people from black American families. How long does Ngata or Onwuzerikes or Ulofoshios family have to be in the US for in order to cross into the "black, black" not "african black" subgenre? Or do they have an African last name so it doesnt count? No one knows except the wokest of the woke among us.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
DDY is entitled to his opinions, but he seems to be someone who only sees color while mocking those who think people should be judged on merit and character....
Nuke this fucking thread
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Wait, I thought Nigerians and the decedents of slaves are the same?!?!! NO!?!?! But they ALL HAVE BLACK SKIN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
Yeah, I wonder why! lololol
Keep going guys, you are doing super well.
Are mixed black people not descendants of slaves, too? You seem to have an issue with mixed players. Im trying to keep up with your logic. You see, almost all descendants of slaves from hundreds of years ago have some white ancestry.
What percentage of white ancestry makes you mixed versus black? Do you just judge by shade of skin? Answer the fucking question.
This can't be a real question, can it? lololololol
Keep firing away your questions on 'ask a black man'! There are no stupid questions. Keep 'em coming and I will gather them all and answer all at once.
You guys will be jiving with the homeboys in no time!
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More of a positive one than a negative one but it is similar.
The difference is that black people have dominated football rosters ever since whitey allowed them to play. So having a roster that is disproportionately non-black is susceptible to negative recruiting whereas the poly player pool is much smaller so only having a few polys can't really be negatively recruited as much as having a disproportionately high poly representation can be postively emphasized.
Go on white people!! Do your thing.
The west coast is racist because it has more asians and less black people!@!1!!1!!
Why do all these black people keep thinking I'm biased?? They just don't get it man. White people don't think I'm racist AT ALL!!!
If black people only understood, then they would really see - but it's really hard to make them understand when they keep telling me I'm racist!!
Oh well, I have lots of black friends.
The entire premise is so fucking flawed I feel like Im taking crazy pills. We have white coaches, 3 black coaches, 2 poly coaches, and a middle eastern looking coach. We have probably the most diverse roster of players in the country. We had a Chinese all american play safety for us. Our other safety was black and filipino.
This whole thread is a black eye for the program that is based on a fucking lie. It actually pisses me off. We have a player's mom saying youre full of shit. We have black NFL players that love the program and actively recruit for it on twitter.
Nuke this thread. It's embarrassing
I love the 'black people are all the same so I don't get what's with all the racism accusations' argument. It's amazing.
Tell me more about the nuances of the black experience in America big guy!
Thanks in advance!
No one has said anything close to this. Nice try?
Not a good look for you, honestly. When the parents of black players say youre full of shit you know you're pressing. And you continue to full court press. Is Jordan Miller not black enough for you? Jesus
Isn't the one drop rule around any more?!!? What is going on?!?! I'm losing my bearings!!
I love watching white people so confused because they have absolutely no clue about entry-level experiences in black culture and are like 'IT FEELZ LIKE IM TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!'
Yeah, I wonder why! lololol
Keep going guys, you are doing super well.
Lets take a field trip to the CD (do black people still live there?) and ask black people how they feel about Africans.
What percentage of white ancestry makes you mixed versus black? Do you just judge by shade of skin? Answer the fucking question.
Keep firing away your questions on 'ask a black man'! There are no stupid questions. Keep 'em coming and I will gather them all and answer all at once.
You guys will be jiving with the homeboys in no time!