Miami Hurricanes website asks: What If Miami Beat Washington In 2000?


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That Canes fan deals in hypotheticals
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Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
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They state that had Miami beaten UW they would have been the first team to beat two number 1's and a number 2. Had they beaten UW though It's likely that neither OU nor Virginia Tech would have secured their ranking because UM would have been ahead of them. Florida State was the only team ranked ahead of their #4 ranking at the time of the loss in Seattle. Cool story bro, but if you're dealing in hypotheticals play out the fucking string. Even a guy who bags groceries can figure this shit out. Had UW beaten UCLA in '90 we would be the proud owners of two half national championships. Cry me a river.
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The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty -
Another example of why it's important to WIN when you reach the big game. Seahawks went from Dynasty to one hit wonder because of Pete's blunder.RaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty
USC basically had a 3-Pete wiped off the board too. 2003 (screwed by BCS but still voted #1 AP), 2004(vacated but won DGAF), 2005 (CHOKED the big one in the greatest college game I've seen). -
Hi @creepycougRaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty
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Propaganda knows no rulesCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
Is SRS Chest's deal? -
Yeah, that was a Chest thing. At least in your poast, it's something to rank champions by and not have a hypothetical about a team like Chest even though I think he was right.RaceBannon said:
Propaganda knows no rulesCFetters_Nacho_Lover said:
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I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently. -
Yep. Pretty much. That was an underrated UW defense and a winner at QB ... but still. Butch should have had them ready. He had more than enough firepower to come up here and win. Easily. But, my uncle has my aunt's balls.RaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty -
Agreed with all but 2005. I was not surprised. SC D that year was rather human. Offense was lights out but not an all time great team IMO.Doogles said:
Another example of why it's important to WIN when you reach the big game. Seahawks went from Dynasty to one hit wonder because of Pete's blunder.RaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty
USC basically had a 3-Pete wiped off the board too. 2003 (screwed by BCS but still voted #1 AP), 2004(vacated but won DGAF), 2005 (CHOKED the big one in the greatest college game I've seen). -
An even more painful loss than the 02 version. Entirely outclassed Penn State but nobody overcomes 5 picks. The bitch of it was: no pressure. He just threw 5 super really shitty passes. All of them in bad spots. And with a running game that could do whatever it wanted. That one is on Jimmy as much as anyone. What a gift for the Pedos.YellowSnow said:
Hi @creepycougRaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty -
They still choked the big game. Reggie Bush deciding to play Rugby and fumbling instead of settling for 1st and Goal inside the five. Going for it on 4th and 1 with Bush inexplicably on the sidelines.creepycoug said:
Agreed with all but 2005. I was not surprised. SC D that year was rather human. Offense was lights out but not an all time great team IMO.Doogles said:
Another example of why it's important to WIN when you reach the big game. Seahawks went from Dynasty to one hit wonder because of Pete's blunder.RaceBannon said:The bigger fuck up for the Canes was the Ohio State loss in the Fiesta Bowl. Miami always loses the Fiesta Bowl
With a back to back natty that three year run is the best ever regardless of the loss to UW. UW should NOT have kept Miami out of the title game that year
Anyway one title in a three year run keeps them under valued as a dynasty
USC basically had a 3-Pete wiped off the board too. 2003 (screwed by BCS but still voted #1 AP), 2004(vacated but won DGAF), 2005 (CHOKED the big one in the greatest college game I've seen).
Vince young balled out and earned the win, but SC made that miracle a possibility with arrogant and disorganized play.
Game of inches, what should very easily be known as a 3-pete isn't even recognized as a single title in the South. -
What if Washington had beat Oregon that year?
As it stands, we beat 3 BCS teams in 2000: Miami, Oregon State, & Purdue, and two of those teams won their BCS bowls -- the only one that lost was the one that lost to us.
I don't think many teams have done that... maybe one or two? -
I think the hype on the 2000 Miami team is based on the fact that (1) they were fucking loaded, (2) they got better and better as the season wore on and were arguably the most dangerous team in the country at the end of the year, (3) it portended what would become an all-time team the next year and (4) the national championship was a dud and the winner an unspectacular team. Miami would have rolled Oklahoma and probably any other team they could have played. Oregon State had a very good team that year but got some serious hype for beating a Notre Dame team that most people thought slid into a BCS bowl.Baphomet said:What if Washington had beat Oregon that year?
As it stands, we beat 3 BCS teams in 2000: Miami, Oregon State, & Purdue, and two of those teams won their BCS bowls -- the only one that lost was the one that lost to us.
I don't think many teams have done that... maybe one or two? -
They lost to our Dwags.creepycoug said:
I think the hype on the 2000 Miami team is based on the fact that (1) they were fucking loaded, (2) they got better and better as the season wore on and were arguably the most dangerous team in the country at the end of the year, (3) it portended what would become an all-time team the next year and (4) the national championship was a dud and the winner an unspectacular team. Miami would have rolled Oklahoma and probably any other team they could have played. Oregon State had a very good team that year but got some serious hype for beating a Notre Dame team that most people thought slid into a BCS bowl.Baphomet said:What if Washington had beat Oregon that year?
As it stands, we beat 3 BCS teams in 2000: Miami, Oregon State, & Purdue, and two of those teams won their BCS bowls -- the only one that lost was the one that lost to us.
I don't think many teams have done that... maybe one or two?
Nuff said on that. -
Yeah I get that, but if they can play "what if" why can't we? We would have been undefeated.creepycoug said:
I think the hype on the 2000 Miami team isBaphomet said:What if Washington had beat Oregon that year?
As it stands, we beat 3 BCS teams in 2000: Miami, Oregon State, & Purdue, and two of those teams won their BCS bowls -- the only one that lost was the one that lost to us.
I don't think many teams have done that... maybe one or two?
And as I wrote, I don't think more than 2 teams have achieved what UW achieved that season. -
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
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Nobody said you couldn't. Don't twist. What if away.Baphomet said:
Yeah I get that, but if they can play "what if" why can't we? We would have been undefeated.creepycoug said:
I think the hype on the 2000 Miami team isBaphomet said:What if Washington had beat Oregon that year?
As it stands, we beat 3 BCS teams in 2000: Miami, Oregon State, & Purdue, and two of those teams won their BCS bowls -- the only one that lost was the one that lost to us.
I don't think many teams have done that... maybe one or two?
And as I wrote, I don't think more than 2 teams have achieved what UW achieved that season. -
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others. -
Damn you Race Bannon old! I'll be at a UM tailgate this year and ask the old timer, older than you, what his opinion is. When I was there in 2014, everyone, everyone I met brought up the 2001 game. One guy who attended all three match ups has the tickets framed. Miami gets shit for support, even the 94 game wasn't a sell out. Yeah they sell out for FSU, but that's because the place is like 35-40% Seminole.creepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others.
Also who WTF's a pic of a beer pong table at the Tavern in the Grove? -
Imagine being scared of a little brown man.creepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others. -
Nobody talks about it anymore except a Miami Hurricanes websitecreepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others.
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Don't be an idiot.DerekJohnson said:
Nobody talks about it anymore except a Miami Hurricanes websitecreepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others.
yeah BUT STILL -
Not quite that old. I doubt very seriously your story about some guy framing three game tickets from matchups with Washington. Don't get your feelings hurt, but that is made-up af.huskyhooligan said:
Damn you Race Bannon old! I'll be at a UM tailgate this year and ask the old timer, older than you, what his opinion is. When I was there in 2014, everyone, everyone I met brought up the 2001 game. One guy who attended all three match ups has the tickets framed. Miami gets shit for support, even the 94 game wasn't a sell out. Yeah they sell out for FSU, but that's because the place is like 35-40% Seminole.creepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others.
Also who WTF's a pic of a beer pong table at the Tavern in the Grove?
The point, which didn't come across well, is that Miami has nice bucket full of epic and historic games. The Washington games, which were important, don't crack the top ten.
Put is this way. I remember when Miami went down to Baton Rouge, at night, in the rain, and beat the living tar out of LSU 44-3. I remember because, even then, people didn't frequently go down there and embarrass the Tigers. I also remember it because it formed part of a 19 road game winning streak. But it's not some all-time "the stadium has never been louder" game. I remember it, because I remember most things Cane, and because it was a great game. It's not a HOF game.
What you and Derek are failing to appreciate is that the Washington games have context ... it comes up because it cost Miami a shot at a title in 2000. 94 comes up because it ended the streak. If there is a thread about those topics, then of course it's coming up. I didn't say nobody remembers. But none of those games ... 94, 00 or 01 are all-timers. Sorry. There aren't many people more Cane than me. It is what it is. If you're standing around a bunch of Canes who are 40 and over, they're bringin up Oklahoma 86 just to bring it up. They're bringing up 89 ND and 3rd and 43. They're bringing up 88 ND and the bullshit Cleveland Gary fumble call. They're typically not bringing up 01 Washington. -
No, you are hella old.creepycoug said:
Not quite that old. I doubt very seriously your story about some guy framing three game tickets from matchups with Washington. Don't get your feelings hurt, but that is made-up af.huskyhooligan said:
Damn you Race Bannon old! I'll be at a UM tailgate this year and ask the old timer, older than you, what his opinion is. When I was there in 2014, everyone, everyone I met brought up the 2001 game. One guy who attended all three match ups has the tickets framed. Miami gets shit for support, even the 94 game wasn't a sell out. Yeah they sell out for FSU, but that's because the place is like 35-40% Seminole.creepycoug said:
I was at the 83 Nebraska game for the first title. I was at the 81 upset of #1 Penn State. I was at the '88 opener against Deion Sanders and #1 Florida State. I was at the '89 drubbing of #1 Notre Dame and saw 3rd and 43. I was at the '85 ass kicking of Notre Dame and poor Gerry Foust. I was at the '86 Oklahoma Bozworth game. And, sadly, I was at the '84 Boston College game and saw Hail Flutie. Actually, I didn't see the play, but I was there. Shall I continue? Bro?huskyhooligan said:
My friend has been a Cane season ticket holder since 98. You even beer pong in the grove bro?creepycoug said:
I'll bet your friend also talks about the standing ovation at Lincoln a lot too. The only time they've ever done that for an opposing team. Ever.huskyhooligan said:Best friend from high school contends the loudest the Orange Bowl has ever been was in 2001 for the Washington game.
Your friend never attended a Notre Dame or Florida State game. Apparently.
If your "friend" counts 1998 as the beginning of time, at the fucking Orange Bowl no less, then he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground compared to me.
I had family and friends at the Washington game. The game was fun and there was retribution for 2000. 1994 had faded by then, interrupted by some pretty lean years. Nobody talks about it anymore. They still talk about the games I listed above, and many others.
Also who WTF's a pic of a beer pong table at the Tavern in the Grove?
The point, which didn't come across well, is that Miami has nice bucket full of epic and historic games. The Washington games, which were important, don't crack the top ten.
Put is this way. I remember when Miami went down to Baton Rouge, at night, in the rain, and beat the living tar out of LSU 44-3. I remember because, even then, people didn't frequently go down there and embarrass the Tigers. I also remember it because it formed part of a 19 road game winning streak. But it's not some all-time "the stadium has never been louder" game. I remember it, because I remember most things Cane, and because it was a great game. It's not a HOF game.
What you and Derek are failing to appreciate is that the Washington games have context ... it comes up because it cost Miami a shot at a title in 2000. 94 comes up because it ended the streak. If there is a thread about those topics, then of course it's coming up. I didn't say nobody remembers. But none of those games ... 94, 00 or 01 are all-timers. Sorry. There aren't many people more Cane than me. It is what it is. If you're standing around a bunch of Canes who are 40 and over, they're bringin up Oklahoma 86 just to bring it up. They're bringing up 89 ND and 3rd and 43. They're bringing up 88 ND and the bullshit Cleveland Gary fumble call. They're typically not bringing up 01 Washington.
As for guy with the tickets framed, he'll be in East 5A Parking Lot at Hard Rock all season, and is an attorney in Delray Beach. He framed them because he went to each game. Why would I even make that up?
I'm glad you're a big cane fan, but you had a top 15 Washington team coming in, a team that kept you out of the BCS the year before, and was the last thing standing in the way of your chance at the title the following year. You don't think fans were hyped up? Had that game happened earlier in the year when it was supposed to be played, I doubt it would have had the same hype. But last game before BCS selection? Yes. Were you even there? I think you're downgrading it just because it's Washington. Have you ever been to the Tavern in the Grove?
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The real question is...what if Washington beat Miami that year....?
edit: i mean Oregon.
and somebody already brought that up.
but I can't delete posts so here it stays so you can all make fun of me.