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Bernie knows where the votes are in the Rat Party

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  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance
    Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,213

    Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

    Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

    One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,213

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    And strawman ass fucking is yours. I never said most felons are rapist and murderers my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. But either way Bernie wants to give them the vote. I'm fully in favor of the Rats running on this position. Trump will light Bernie's ass up with this.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,213

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Its as if these people have no knowledge of our history and human nature.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,027 Founders Club

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance
    Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.
    I'm not dogmatic on the issue

    Fair statement
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

    Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

    One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.
    As Boehner lied about and WaPo agrees with you on. Congrats.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/04/16/john-boehners-claim-that-we-have-literally-filled-up-our-jails-with-people-for-minor-marijuana-possession/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.26d2bcc9e712
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,213
    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,027 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    Correct