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SFGbob
SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
Convicted and still in prison murders, rapists and terrorists should still have the ability to vote.

Nice fucking party Rats.

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  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
    They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

    Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
    What's the quote? Purple throbber is fucking some strawman ass right there....
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited April 2019
    2001400ex said:

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
    What's the quote? Purple throbber is fucking some strawman ass right there....
    You do understand the difference between questions (see the squiggly thing that looks like this '?') and quotes (which look like this ' " " ') ???

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
    They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

    Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.
    Why? They chose not to adhere to the laws of the land. When they've paid their dues to society, they get to play again. Pretty simple.

    Do you give out the juice boxes at half time or wait until the game is over?

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

    You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

    Don't like it - change the laws.
    They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

    Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.
    Right

    No rights except the right to vote for demcrats

    JFC

    If its important to restore rights to make them part of society then they should have all rights restored

    Or none
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance
    Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

    Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

    One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

    And strawman ass fucking is yours. I never said most felons are rapist and murderers my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. But either way Bernie wants to give them the vote. I'm fully in favor of the Rats running on this position. Trump will light Bernie's ass up with this.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Its as if these people have no knowledge of our history and human nature.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

    83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


    It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

    Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance
    Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.
    I'm not dogmatic on the issue

    Fair statement
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

    Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

    One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.
    As Boehner lied about and WaPo agrees with you on. Congrats.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/04/16/john-boehners-claim-that-we-have-literally-filled-up-our-jails-with-people-for-minor-marijuana-possession/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.26d2bcc9e712
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    Correct


  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    Correct


    What does it say right after "before that agreement..."?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
    Like that's going to stop hondo from repeating the same old lie over and over
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
    I expect bullshit like that from race and Bob. But you are better than that.

    "Research funded by conservative website
    In October 2015, before the official start of the 2016 Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, an American conservative political journalism website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct general opposition research on several Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.[1] The Free Beacon and Singer were "part of the conservative never-Trump movement".[28] For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee on May 3, 2016,[29] The Free Beacon stopped funding research on him.[2][30][31]"
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,090 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
    I expect bullshit like that from race and Bob. But you are better than that.

    "Research funded by conservative website
    In October 2015, before the official start of the 2016 Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, an American conservative political journalism website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct general opposition research on several Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.[1] The Free Beacon and Singer were "part of the conservative never-Trump movement".[28] For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee on May 3, 2016,[29] The Free Beacon stopped funding research on him.[2][30][31]"
    Or completely derailing a thread by engaging in the same bullshit from other threads over and over.

    So anyways, yeah, patented attempt at vote grabbing by Bernie in the same vein as "undocumented peoples should have the right to vote".
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
    I expect bullshit like that from race and Bob. But you are better than that.

    "Research funded by conservative website
    In October 2015, before the official start of the 2016 Republican primary campaign, The Washington Free Beacon, an American conservative political journalism website primarily funded by Republican donor Paul Singer, hired the American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct general opposition research on several Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.[1] The Free Beacon and Singer were "part of the conservative never-Trump movement".[28] For months, Fusion GPS gathered information about Trump, focusing on his business and entertainment activities. When Trump became the presumptive nominee on May 3, 2016,[29] The Free Beacon stopped funding research on him.[2][30][31]"
    That's exactly what Grundle pointed out you simpering moron

    The Wa Po correctly backs him up on Hillary talking it to Russia and over the top and having Obama use it to spy

    How about one day you stop lying. Give it a shot
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    Fucking liar. You claimed the Steele dossier was funded by a Conservative Group.
  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,662

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

    Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

    Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.
    The Free Beacon, I believe, started the research and fairly quickly dropped it, long before Steele and your precious piss tapes came into the picture.
    Like that's going to stop hondo from repeating the same old lie over and over
    Or completely derailing a thread by engaging in the same bullshit from other threads over and over.
    You sound angry
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    just imagine Hillary did all this and you will see the light. I would think the same thing regardless

    Imagine? She did and then some, or do like to ignore the fact even the NYTs now accepts that the fake Steele Dossier was a bunch of Russian misinformation that Hillary's campaign paid actual cash to Russians for.

    AoG going HondoFS...


    Read the Mueller report. It addresses the Steele dossier and Carter page that you have a boner over.
    HondoFS going HondoFS with blatant lies mixed with his speed-limit IQ. The Mueller report pretty much ignores the Steele Dossier, and when it does reference the fake report it basically calls it out for being what it is...completely fabricated nonsense (i.e. Cohen in Prague never happened, no blackmail tape on Trump, absolutely zero zip nada evidence Carter Page was involved in any way shape or form with Russia which should have already been obvious since he was a previous FBI source against Russians, etc.). And the Mueller report completely ignores the origins of the fake Steele Dossier, which was Hillary's campaign paying a foreign spy who used that money from Hillary to pay Russian nationals for what turned out to be disinformation.

    You keep lying your speed-limit IQ off though...
    You read like a bad episode of Sean hannity. And no Hillary was not the origin of the Steele dossier. Idiot