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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Larry Craig (aka Bob) is struggling in this thread.

    No matter the topic Hondo's mind always turns to dick sucking.
    I'm just glad Larry Craig can still post on the internet.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    “Without firing a shot”

    Except for arming the Afghan “freedom fighters” (jihadists) against the Soviets and creating this phony good vs evil narrative that led to 9/11 and the post-9/11 paranoid breakdown of society.
    Except we weren't firing any shots. Shocked you left out the Contra's Commie. And the Soviets were fucking evil. Sweet Geezus is this 1976 all over again?
    “Without firing a shot” implies that it was a bloodless victory. Funneling war through proxies to achieve your goals isn’t not firing a shot you idiot. So are you going to defend the Contras and illegally supplying them arms or what?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,881
    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    I said nothing to an obvious rhetorical flourish and exaggeration that you took literally? Actually I simply responded with something you initially argued with and now you call “obvious”. Have you told your doctor that you are so easily set off and confused?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    I said nothing to an obvious rhetorical flourish and exaggeration that you took literally? Actually I simply responded with something you initially argued with and now you call “obvious”. Have you told your doctor that you are so easily set off and confused?
    I argued that in 1980 it wasn't conventional wisdom that the Soviets were teetering. Why do you always have to lie Kunt? It wasn't "obvious" at the time, with hindsight, and the knowledge we've acquired since 1980, it's obvious now. Have you told you're doctor what lying worthless piece of shit you are?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
    The only evil in the mind of the leftist is America
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    “Without firing a shot”

    Except for arming the Afghan “freedom fighters” (jihadists) against the Soviets and creating this phony good vs evil narrative that led to 9/11 and the post-9/11 paranoid breakdown of society.
    Except we weren't firing any shots. Shocked you left out the Contra's Commie. And the Soviets were fucking evil. Sweet Geezus is this 1976 all over again?
    “Without firing a shot” implies that it was a bloodless victory. Funneling war through proxies to achieve your goals isn’t not firing a shot you idiot. So are you going to defend the Contras and illegally supplying them arms or what?
    I don't have a problem with arming the Contras. It was a neat idea

    Fuck Ortega and the Reds down there
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
    The Soviet Union did evil things. Stalin did evil things. Holodomor and the purged were evil. Hitler did evil things. So did America. The Vietnam War was evil.

    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    “Without firing a shot”

    Except for arming the Afghan “freedom fighters” (jihadists) against the Soviets and creating this phony good vs evil narrative that led to 9/11 and the post-9/11 paranoid breakdown of society.
    Except we weren't firing any shots. Shocked you left out the Contra's Commie. And the Soviets were fucking evil. Sweet Geezus is this 1976 all over again?
    “Without firing a shot” implies that it was a bloodless victory. Funneling war through proxies to achieve your goals isn’t not firing a shot you idiot. So are you going to defend the Contras and illegally supplying them arms or what?
    I don't have a problem with arming the Contras. It was a neat idea

    Fuck Ortega and the Reds down there
    The contras had no popular support and were essentially a terrorist organization that massacred women and children and were only propped up by the US. Who are you to tell Nicaraguans what their government should be.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US

    So what should we have done about Stalin’s “evil” regine? Continued WWII and killed countless more Soviets as a crusade against this “evil” until it was wiped out. At that point what greater “evil” are you trying to prevent exactly?

    Are you saying the Brezhnev and Gorbachev regimes were just like Stalin? Delusional.

  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US

    El oh El. First of, you never went to college. Secondly, there's no way any professor said that.

    I think you need to take a long walk to the ER to go sit with a room full of illegals for hours.

    Lil lyin Bob.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US

    El oh El. First of, you never went to college. Secondly, there's no way any professor said that.

    I think you need to take a long walk to the ER to go sit with a room full of illegals for hours.

    Lil lyin Bob.
    Go suck a dick Hondo. You're no good at anything else, other than maybe lying.

    And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
    The Soviet Union did evil things. Stalin did evil things. Holodomor and the purged were evil. Hitler did evil things. So did America. The Vietnam War was evil.

    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
    Was the question too fucking tough for ya Kunt? Was calling Nazi Germany evil part of the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?


    Btw, if you're looking for a great example of strawman ass fuck look no further than here:


    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US

    So what should we have done about Stalin’s “evil” regine? Continued WWII and killed countless more Soviets as a crusade against this “evil” until it was wiped out. At that point what greater “evil” are you trying to prevent exactly?

    Are you saying the Brezhnev and Gorbachev regimes were just like Stalin? Delusional.

    We should have done exactly what we did. Contain them and challenge them all over the globe in an attempt to limit their sphere of influence and their power. You know, all the things you America hating Commies bitched about.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
    The Soviet Union did evil things. Stalin did evil things. Holodomor and the purged were evil. Hitler did evil things. So did America. The Vietnam War was evil.

    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
    Was the question too fucking tough for ya Kunt? Was calling Nazi Germany evil part of the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?


    Btw, if you're looking for a great example of strawman ass fuck look no further than here:


    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
    The mindset that the benevolent US is confronting the forces of “evil” in the world was the bullshit vision of reality Reagan pimped and that the neocons cribbed for their invasion of Iraq. And that you somehow still defend even though it was exposed as folly. Convenient you keep ignoring that.
  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    edited April 2019
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Depending on the source you look at Stalin murdered somewhere between 10 to 20 Million of his own people while imprisoning millions more but the resident Commie thinks it's "phony" to call the Soviets evil.

    Some serious “strawman ass phucking” here. Of course the problem is the dressing up of the nasty business of great power competition as a struggle between good and evil. And crusading against this “evil” in any corner of the globe. It’s the mindset that gave us the Iraq War.
    Identify the strawman and your inablility to call the Soviets evil speaks volumes.

    Was Hitler evil? Was calling Hitler evil the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?
    The Soviet Union did evil things. Stalin did evil things. Holodomor and the purged were evil. Hitler did evil things. So did America. The Vietnam War was evil.

    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
    Was the question too fucking tough for ya Kunt? Was calling Nazi Germany evil part of the "mindset" that gave us the Iraq war?


    Btw, if you're looking for a great example of strawman ass fuck look no further than here:


    Was the Soviet Union of the 1980’s so “evil” that we had to confront and defeat it anywhere it wielded influence in order to protect the US? Of course not and you’re a fucking dupe if you think otherwise.
    Larry Craig called and says he appreciates your homoerotic Homophobia.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    So you can't call a regime that murdered 20 million people evil. Out fucking standing. It's like I'm back in college again with the Marxist professors who tried to blame all of the Soviets atrocities on the US

    So what should we have done about Stalin’s “evil” regine? Continued WWII and killed countless more Soviets as a crusade against this “evil” until it was wiped out. At that point what greater “evil” are you trying to prevent exactly?

    Are you saying the Brezhnev and Gorbachev regimes were just like Stalin? Delusional.

    We should have done exactly what we did. Contain them and challenge them all over the globe in an attempt to limit their sphere of influence and their power. You know, all the things you America hating Commies bitched about.
    “In retrospect, the Vietnam War was good and necessary”
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    So calling Hitler evil was the "mindset" that led to the Iraq war and we shouldn't have called him evil. And the Soviets weren't evil they just did evil things like US. Appears you're upset the Commies lost the Cold War Comrade.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    So calling Hitler evil was the "mindset" that led to the Iraq war and we shouldn't have called him evil. And the Soviets weren't evil they just did evil things like US. Appears you're upset the Commies lost the Cold War Comrade.

    Just a pitiful effort all around. For someone who does this each day all week you really suck at it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    So calling Hitler evil was the "mindset" that led to the Iraq war and we shouldn't have called him evil. And the Soviets weren't evil they just did evil things like US. Appears you're upset the Commies lost the Cold War Comrade.

    Just a pitiful effort all around. For someone who does this each day all week you really suck at it.
    Fuck you, Take your ass kicking like a man and quit whining like a little bitch like Hondo.


    You're a fucking apologist for mass murder all because your "team" was doing the mass murdering. Hey O'Keefed, you going to get on in here and tongue your boy's ass?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    So calling Hitler evil was the "mindset" that led to the Iraq war and we shouldn't have called him evil. And the Soviets weren't evil they just did evil things like US. Appears you're upset the Commies lost the Cold War Comrade.

    Just a pitiful effort all around. For someone who does this each day all week you really suck at it.
    Fuck you, Take your ass kicking like a man and quit whining like a little bitch like Hondo.


    You're a fucking apologist for mass murder all because your "team" was doing the mass murdering. Hey O'Keefed, you going to get on in here and tongue your boy's ass?
    You’re saying I claimed that calling Hitler “evil” was the mindset that led to the Iraq War. Lol. Just shut the fuck up and log off. Your continuous bad faith is played out.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Do you ever reflect on the fact that before you joined here in August 2018 you had never heard of “Hondo” but now, some 5,500 posts later he’s your mortal enemy who you spend the majority of your day “calling out” for his bullshit to an audience of maybe 3 people who actually care. What a pointless existence.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,705 Founders Club

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    “Without firing a shot”

    Except for arming the Afghan “freedom fighters” (jihadists) against the Soviets and creating this phony good vs evil narrative that led to 9/11 and the post-9/11 paranoid breakdown of society.
    Except we weren't firing any shots. Shocked you left out the Contra's Commie. And the Soviets were fucking evil. Sweet Geezus is this 1976 all over again?
    “Without firing a shot” implies that it was a bloodless victory. Funneling war through proxies to achieve your goals isn’t not firing a shot you idiot. So are you going to defend the Contras and illegally supplying them arms or what?
    I don't have a problem with arming the Contras. It was a neat idea

    Fuck Ortega and the Reds down there
    The contras had no popular support and were essentially a terrorist organization that massacred women and children and were only propped up by the US. Who are you to tell Nicaraguans what their government should be.
    But but but

    Commie apologist

    Ortega was not popular nor elected nor any good at running a country

    Fuck that guy

    Not surprised you missed the humor on neat idea


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    So calling Hitler evil was the "mindset" that led to the Iraq war and we shouldn't have called him evil. And the Soviets weren't evil they just did evil things like US. Appears you're upset the Commies lost the Cold War Comrade.

    Just a pitiful effort all around. For someone who does this each day all week you really suck at it.
    Fuck you, Take your ass kicking like a man and quit whining like a little bitch like Hondo.


    You're a fucking apologist for mass murder all because your "team" was doing the mass murdering. Hey O'Keefed, you going to get on in here and tongue your boy's ass?
    You’re saying I claimed that calling Hitler “evil” was the mindset that led to the Iraq War. Lol. Just shut the fuck up and log off. Your continuous bad faith is played out.
    You're the one who claimed that calling a regime that murdered 20 million people "evil" created some kind of "mind set" that led to the Iraq war. I was just trying to establish how far you were willing to go with your idiocy.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    Do you ever reflect on the fact that before you joined here in August 2018 you had never heard of “Hondo” but now, some 5,500 posts later he’s your mortal enemy who you spend the majority of your day “calling out” for his bullshit to an audience of maybe 3 people who actually care. What a pointless existence.

    But I've never called Hondo evil. That would establish a "mindset" that would then make murder possible.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,421 Founders Club

    APAG, this might be one of the most ignorant threads you’ve ever started. We have the courts that punish companies for doing bad shit. Look at the recent Monsanto RoundUp lawsuit. In your dream of socialism, there is no oversight. The people owning the factories are the same people that are also the rule maker and the judge aka: The Government. No system is perfect, but at least In the free market capitalism, competition helps even the playing field and some government oversight is needed to keep it that way, like breaking up monopolies.

    The only voices in America advocating breaking up monopolies are on the socialist left.
    Who wants to break up google and facebook/twitter?

    Liz Warren
    Just her?
    And me. Maybe that insane Ducks fan on here who is a QAnon follower now. But his reasons are different.
    If you are against QAnon, maybe we? should be for it.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,641 Standard Supporter

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    No, my quarrel is with you. One of the resident commies posted:

    Reagan won the Cold War by giving a speech being mean to communism is still the funniest right-wing myth in circulation.

    You, the HUGE Reagan supporter said nothing in response to this strawman ass rape. But I when I did, you came running to inform us

    The Soviet Union was teetering and RR gave it a shove. He almost undoubtedly hastened its end, but it was going to end

    thanks for the 20/20 hindsight Kunt. We all know now that the Soviet Union was teetering. But that certainly wasn't the conventional wisdom at the time and it certainly wasn't what our intelligence agencies thought. Reagan and few others saw if differently and that's why he knew that he could spend the Soviets into oblivion and that's how he won the Cold War without firing a shot.

    “Without firing a shot”

    Except for arming the Afghan “freedom fighters” (jihadists) against the Soviets and creating this phony good vs evil narrative that led to 9/11 and the post-9/11 paranoid breakdown of society.
    Except we weren't firing any shots. Shocked you left out the Contra's Commie. And the Soviets were fucking evil. Sweet Geezus is this 1976 all over again?
    “Without firing a shot” implies that it was a bloodless victory. Funneling war through proxies to achieve your goals isn’t not firing a shot you idiot. So are you going to defend the Contras and illegally supplying them arms or what?
    I don't have a problem with arming the Contras. It was a neat idea

    Fuck Ortega and the Reds down there
    It was a win win! We sold arms to Iran to kill Iraqis while using the profits to arm the Contra's to kill communists! Great fucking plan!