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#HandsOffVenezuela

GrundleStiltzkin
GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
"... might mean blood on your hands."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKVakhcm5ko

She is annoying AF, but also right on this particular point.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,500 Standard Supporter


    Invasion! NOW!
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    I watched it.

    Not sure what to say. She has a balanced, nuance take on a political issue.







    TF is this doing here?
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    Yeah, TL;DW

    Yeah, well you should.

    Or listen to it during your commute/workout/brbjo ...
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    pawz said:

    Counter-poont, Aaron Matè.



    https://youtu.be/vq7ngZgzU-k

    You've already posted this.

    The fact that there are some Venezuelans who support the Commies and don't want the US to intervene in no way means there aren't Venezuelans who feel the opposite, or that the US doesn't have some responsibility.

    I'm generally anti interventionism, but 3 million refugees in our own half of the world should be enough to get our attention.
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    pawz said:

    Counter-poont, Aaron Matè.



    https://youtu.be/vq7ngZgzU-k

    You've already posted this.

    The fact that there are some Venezuelans who support the Commies and don't want the US to intervene in no way means there aren't Venezuelans who feel the opposite, or that the US doesn't have some responsibility.

    I'm generally anti interventionism, but 3 million refugees in our own half of the world should be enough to get our attention.
    Ok but the solution for those who think the US has “responsibility” is regime change.

    The sanctions are making living conditions much worse and are intended to get people to rise up against Maduro. But we saw that there is no popular mandate for that as Guaido’s coup flopped.
  • HillsboroDuck
    HillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186

    pawz said:

    Counter-poont, Aaron Matè.



    https://youtu.be/vq7ngZgzU-k

    You've already posted this.

    The fact that there are some Venezuelans who support the Commies and don't want the US to intervene in no way means there aren't Venezuelans who feel the opposite, or that the US doesn't have some responsibility.

    I'm generally anti interventionism, but 3 million refugees in our own half of the world should be enough to get our attention.
    Ok but the solution for those who think the US has “responsibility” is regime change.

    The sanctions are making living conditions much worse and are intended to get people to rise up against Maduro. But we saw that there is no popular mandate for that as Guaido’s coup flopped.
    So you disagree with the girl in the OP vid. And your recommendation is what?
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    pawz said:

    Counter-poont, Aaron Matè.



    https://youtu.be/vq7ngZgzU-k

    You've already posted this.

    The fact that there are some Venezuelans who support the Commies and don't want the US to intervene in no way means there aren't Venezuelans who feel the opposite, or that the US doesn't have some responsibility.

    I'm generally anti interventionism, but 3 million refugees in our own half of the world should be enough to get our attention.
    Ok but the solution for those who think the US has “responsibility” is regime change.

    The sanctions are making living conditions much worse and are intended to get people to rise up against Maduro. But we saw that there is no popular mandate for that as Guaido’s coup flopped.
    So you disagree with the girl in the OP vid. And your recommendation is what?
    Not meddling in Venezuela.

    Remove sanctions because the intended goal isn’t feasible and it only exacerbates the suffering which all the interventionists claim to care so much about. Restore normal diplomatic relations. Stop pretending this Guaido guy is the real president.