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When your making shit up how can you be right?RaceBannon said:Again
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I blame the victims who were begging for it.
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Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said: -
Mueller wasn't firedYellowSnow said:
Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said:
Comey deserved to be fired and arrested. The CIC has the ability and right to fire anyone. They serve at the pleasure of the President
Saddam did bring it on by not allowing inspections
Your lame excuse about tax returns and Comey are just that. Admit it, you were part of the mob and you were wrong and it was based on a personal dislike of Trump and his voters that you consistently display here
You're not above the fray or anything else
Your post yesterday was a classic of victim blaming.
How many Presidents have an investigation launched before they are even inaugurated by the party they just beat aided and abetted by the candidate they just beat
That is what you are defending. Own it
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J F CRaceBannon said:
Mueller wasn't firedYellowSnow said:
Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said:
Comey deserved to be fired and arrested. The CIC has the ability and right to fire anyone. They serve at the pleasure of the President
Saddam did bring it on by not allowing inspections
Your lame excuse about tax returns and Comey are just that. Admit it, you were part of the mob and you were wrong and it was based on a personal dislike of Trump and his voters that you consistently display here
You're not above the fray or anything else
Your post yesterday was a classic of victim blaming.
How many Presidents have an investigation launched before they are even inaugurated by the party they just beat aided and abetted by the candidate they just beat
That is what you are defending. Own it
And look up probable cause while your at it -
In some cases the stories are only partly wrong, as in the case of the famed “17 intelligence agencies said Russia was behind the hacking” story (it was actually four: the Director of National Intelligence “hand-picking” a team from the FBI, CIA, and NSA).
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CirrhosisDawg said:
J F CRaceBannon said:
Mueller wasn't firedYellowSnow said:
Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said:
Comey deserved to be fired and arrested. The CIC has the ability and right to fire anyone. They serve at the pleasure of the President
Saddam did bring it on by not allowing inspections
Your lame excuse about tax returns and Comey are just that. Admit it, you were part of the mob and you were wrong and it was based on a personal dislike of Trump and his voters that you consistently display here
You're not above the fray or anything else
Your post yesterday was a classic of victim blaming.
How many Presidents have an investigation launched before they are even inaugurated by the party they just beat aided and abetted by the candidate they just beat
That is what you are defending. Own it
And look up probable cause while your at it
That's what I thought
Begging for it
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it is easy for the press to get to 17 from 4 - and it only took maybe a year before it was refuted.GrundleStiltzkin said:In some cases the stories are only partly wrong, as in the case of the famed “17 intelligence agencies said Russia was behind the hacking” story (it was actually four: the Director of National Intelligence “hand-picking” a team from the FBI, CIA, and NSA). -
*Comey (fired)RaceBannon said:
Mueller wasn't firedYellowSnow said:
Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said:
Comey deserved to be fired and arrested. The CIC has the ability and right to fire anyone. They serve at the pleasure of the President
Saddam did bring it on by not allowing inspections
Your lame excuse about tax returns and Comey are just that. Admit it, you were part of the mob and you were wrong and it was based on a personal dislike of Trump and his voters that you consistently display here
You're not above the fray or anything else
Your post yesterday was a classic of victim blaming.
How many Presidents have an investigation launched before they are even inaugurated by the party they just beat aided and abetted by the candidate they just beat
That is what you are defending. Own it
And look up probable cause while your at it
The CIC does have the constitutional right to fire any subordinate. That doesn't make it a wise move politically. Johnson was stupid for firing Stanton and set off an impeachment process. Trump errored in firing Comey.
The supporters of Trump here, yourself included, need to quit fucking lumping everyone that disagrees with you into the liberal mob that was 100% confident the hammer was gonna fall any day now. Yes, I've have consistently voiced my loathing of Trump BUT have never called for impeachment or stated a confidence that Mueller was going get him on collusion.
And speaking of mobs, call me when the right gets crooked Hillary or the Obama administration on something finally.
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The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
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Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that -
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
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It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
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That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
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Yes yes Bob and I are very familiar with your conservative credentialsHHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
You voted for Hillary so you aren't even accurate -
The key moment was getting Session to recuse himself.YellowSnow said:
Point being if we're going to use the silly blame the victim analogy, Saddam acted guilty as fuck by not allowing inspections. And the key moment in triggering a special counsel was firing Mueller. That was fucking stoopid move politically. This isn't a fucking 2 bit reality show.RaceBannon said: -
I was never on the Commies side and your support for Reagan now over 30 years old. It as if I was still arguing that I'm really a liberal because I voted for Mondale. It's the argument a Kunt would make and that's why you make it.HHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
I was young and stupid when I voted for liberals and thought the world owed me a living. What's your excuse now Kunt? -
When haven't the Russians interfered in our elections? Only losers blame the refs.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
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Hard to know whether you're arguing that the Russians aren't Commies anymore or that they didn't want to kill Hillary's campaign. The former proposition is debatable. The latter is not.RaceBannon said:
Yes yes Bob and I are very familiar with your conservative credentialsHHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
You voted for Hillary so you aren't even accurate -
Why would they want to kill Hillary's campaign? They didn't. The report says they wanted to sow discord and that they did thanks to dupes like you spreading disinformationHHusky said:
Hard to know whether you're arguing that the Russians aren't Commies anymore or that they didn't want to kill Hillary's campaign. The former proposition is debatable. The latter is not.RaceBannon said:
Yes yes Bob and I are very familiar with your conservative credentialsHHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
You voted for Hillary so you aren't even accurate
I could go through the list of the ways that Obama and Hillary sucked up to Putin and the ways that Trump has gone against Russia but you don't care. You'll just keep lying. Its what you do -
What is not open for debate is that there was a concerted effort by Russian operatives to hack the DNC and meddle in the election. I have no idea if they had enough of an impact to affect the final outcome, but there was certainly cause to investigate if there was any foul play. To say otherwise, is partisan schilling.RaceBannon said:Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that
The great irony in all of this is that the supposed "Deep State"- i.e., Mueller and his crack team of mostly Democratic lawyers thoroughly investigated and cleared his name. Some fucking Coup attempt. -
Hillary was for sale. She made millions on the Uranium One deal. The Russians wanted her.HHusky said:
Hard to know whether you're arguing that the Russians aren't Commies anymore or that they didn't want to kill Hillary's campaign. The former proposition is debatable. The latter is not.RaceBannon said:
Yes yes Bob and I are very familiar with your conservative credentialsHHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
You voted for Hillary so you aren't even accurate
I started a thread about Trump putting B-62's with nuclear armed cruise missiles in Europe. Not something a Putin guy would do is it? -
I know its and accepted part of conventional wisdom that the Russians hacked the DNC but other than people repeating it as if it were true I still haven't seen the evidence that establishes that fact.YellowSnow said:
What is not open for debate is that there was a concerted effort by Russian operatives to hack the DNC and meddle in the election. I have no idea if they had enough of an impact to affect the final outcome, but there was certainly cause to investigate if there was any foul play. To say otherwise, is partisan schilling.RaceBannon said:Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that
The great irony in all of this is that the supposed "Deep State"- i.e., Mueller and his crack team of mostly Democratic lawyers thoroughly investigated and cleared his name. Some fucking Coup attempt. -
The investigation was on Trump not the Russians hacking the DNC which as Bob points out remains unprovenYellowSnow said:
What is not open for debate is that there was a concerted effort by Russian operatives to hack the DNC and meddle in the election. I have no idea if they had enough of an impact to affect the final outcome, but there was certainly cause to investigate if there was any foul play. To say otherwise, is partisan schilling.RaceBannon said:Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that
The great irony in all of this is that the supposed "Deep State"- i.e., Mueller and his crack team of mostly Democratic lawyers thoroughly investigated and cleared his name. Some fucking Coup attempt.
There was and is no probable cause to go after Trump
Your fabled FBI said in a hearing that without the dossier there is no FISA warrant. We don't spy on political opponents by the sitting POTUS. Ask Nixon. The dossier was fake and Clinton oppo research
There is no deense of this. The fact that it failed doesn't defend it either. Read the texts from the FBI agents. True believers that thought if they didn't find something they could make it up.
The dossier was supposed to knock him out in the first inning
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You actually voted for liberals because you thought the world owed you a living? It all makes sense now. As if I needed more evidence you are a dumb motherfucker.SFGbob said:
I was never on the Commies side and your support for Reagan now over 30 years old. It as if I was still arguing that I'm really a liberal because I voted for Mondale. It's the argument a Kunt would make and that's why you make it.HHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
I was young and stupid when I voted for liberals and thought the world owed me a living. What's your excuse now Kunt? -
I was 18 what's your excuse now Kunt?2001400ex said:
You actually voted for liberals because you thought the world owed you a living? It all makes sense now. As if I needed more evidence you are a dumb motherfucker.SFGbob said:
I was never on the Commies side and your support for Reagan now over 30 years old. It as if I was still arguing that I'm really a liberal because I voted for Mondale. It's the argument a Kunt would make and that's why you make it.HHusky said:
That just means I've never been on the Commies' side. You and blob have, of course.RaceBannon said:
It was OK when the commies supported the American left and the democratsGrundleStiltzkin said:
Yes, they did. But the pearl-clutching manner that statement has been used for the last 2 years is disingenuous. The Soviets & Russians have been trying to influence US opinion and elections since the 1920s. The tools and methods might be new and improved, but the efforts are almost a hundred years old.HHusky said:
The Russians didn't interfere in our election(s)?RaceBannon said:Again
I was young and stupid when I voted for liberals and thought the world owed me a living. What's your excuse now Kunt? -
The long con knows when to pick up his ball and go home. Live to fight another day.YellowSnow said:
What is not open for debate is that there was a concerted effort by Russian operatives to hack the DNC and meddle in the election. I have no idea if they had enough of an impact to affect the final outcome, but there was certainly cause to investigate if there was any foul play. To say otherwise, is partisan schilling.RaceBannon said:Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that
The great irony in all of this is that the supposed "Deep State"- i.e., Mueller and his crack team of mostly Democratic lawyers thoroughly investigated and cleared his name. Some fucking Coup attempt.
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Read up on Guccifer..I have posted several links with this fact, including from Fox news. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't expect the horse to be smart enough to drink.SFGbob said:
I know its and accepted part of conventional wisdom that the Russians hacked the DNC but other than people repeating it as if it were true I still haven't seen the evidence that establishes that fact.YellowSnow said:
What is not open for debate is that there was a concerted effort by Russian operatives to hack the DNC and meddle in the election. I have no idea if they had enough of an impact to affect the final outcome, but there was certainly cause to investigate if there was any foul play. To say otherwise, is partisan schilling.RaceBannon said:Why would anyone keep a rat like Comey around? They wouldn't
That's just fucking stupid. And the investigation was well under way by that time anyway
So its just another dodge
There was no probable cause to launch an investigation of a duly elected President. No dossier no FISA warrant. It was a coup and a fraud and there is not amount of blaming the victim you can do to get around that
The great irony in all of this is that the supposed "Deep State"- i.e., Mueller and his crack team of mostly Democratic lawyers thoroughly investigated and cleared his name. Some fucking Coup attempt.
