Would you consider these groups "Heavy Metal"?
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Rod was there first. LZ I was a copy cat album of the first Jeff Beck album. That said, Zep 1 was a better album.RaceBannon said:Probably some fag named Rod
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Oz was a down on his luck, out of a job loser till that gold digging whore marketed the shit out of him. Yes hes a cultural icon, but he was surrounded by smarter and more talented peopleRaceBannon said:
NojoeEDangerously said:
Yes, its because Sharon fucked over everyone involved with Ozzy who wrote all of his shit for him. Tony Iommi is the real icon of Heavy MetalRaceBannon said:If you grew up on what would be called pop today but was considered rock back then like the Beatles, Herman's Hermits and the like, where the Rolling Stones were considered edgy and a bit hard core then Black Sabbath would have freaked you out. And your parents.
There is a reason Ozzy is a cultural Icon
The front man is the front man
The wife took care of her man
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No to all.
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That's pretty normal among the rich and famous.joeEDangerously said:
Oz was a down on his luck, out of a job loser till that gold digging whore marketed the shit out of him. Yes hes a cultural icon, but he was surrounded by smarter and more talented peopleRaceBannon said:
NojoeEDangerously said:
Yes, its because Sharon fucked over everyone involved with Ozzy who wrote all of his shit for him. Tony Iommi is the real icon of Heavy MetalRaceBannon said:If you grew up on what would be called pop today but was considered rock back then like the Beatles, Herman's Hermits and the like, where the Rolling Stones were considered edgy and a bit hard core then Black Sabbath would have freaked you out. And your parents.
There is a reason Ozzy is a cultural Icon
The front man is the front man
The wife took care of her man
Page was 5 times the artist of Plant but Plant made Zeppelin
There's the Gene Simmons' of the world who are smarter than shit and build empires - but mostly the famous are just good at being famous.
See also the thread on the Tug re: Aunt Becky and her $500K fiasco.
Still so hot though....
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According to my memory, Page inquired about Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, and Steve Winwood before Plant came along.YellowSnow said:
You know who Jimmy wanted before Plant @RaceBannon ?RaceBannon said:
NojoeEDangerously said:
Yes, its because Sharon fucked over everyone involved with Ozzy who wrote all of his shit for him. Tony Iommi is the real icon of Heavy MetalRaceBannon said:If you grew up on what would be called pop today but was considered rock back then like the Beatles, Herman's Hermits and the like, where the Rolling Stones were considered edgy and a bit hard core then Black Sabbath would have freaked you out. And your parents.
There is a reason Ozzy is a cultural Icon
The front man is the front man
The wife took care of her man
Page was 5 times the artist of Plant but Plant made Zeppelin -
Disagree.joeEDangerously said:All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.
Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal
AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.
Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.
Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal
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Jimmy Page's track record for band mates other than Zeppelin is not that impressive. They looked good on paper but..................
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I thought about saying this actuallyPurpleThrobber said:Heavy metal is like porn. I know it when I see (hear) it.
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Use of a keyboard most certainly does not disqualify a band from being metaljoeEDangerously said:All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.
Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal
AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.
Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.
Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal
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How many of you olds actually still listen to metal?
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Fuck off
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I've probably forgotten more metal than you've heardRaceBannon said:Fuck off
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Awesome thanks for the update
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Don't be a bitch about a little jokeRaceBannon said:Awesome thanks for the update
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Cool. Good to know
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True, if your bpm's are high enough and you worship Satan it can override the weirdo, nerdy keyboard player in the group.MariotaTheGawd said:
Use of a keyboard most certainly does not disqualify a band from being metaljoeEDangerously said:All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.
Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal
AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.
Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.
Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal
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don't get clever with me, I've seen these dudes and Dimmu Borgir a couple of times.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Disagree.joeEDangerously said:All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.
Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal
AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.
Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.
Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpfzCxiQ-A -
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal
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How old are you?Purple_Pills said:
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out -
“The Trooper” is a legendary hard rock song. Iron Maiden slows down way too much to be what I would consider metal (Reign in Blood, GWAR, etc.). They like to start slow, build up, then slow down. Or do so in a different pattern. Watch their documentaries, they admit that it is the classic “Maiden” style. They belong in a step below Led Zeppelin as an iconic hard rock band.MariotaTheGawd said:
How old are you?
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still metal as hell today.
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Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justiceMariotaTheGawd said:
How old are you?Purple_Pills said:
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
https://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA -
I'm not sure what to tell you if you think The Trooper isnt a metal song.Purple_Pills said:
“The Trooper” is a legendary hard rock song. Iron Maiden slows down way too much to be what I would consider metal (Reign in Blood, GWAR, etc.). They like to start slow, build up, then slow down. Or do so in a different pattern. Watch their documentaries, they admit that it is the classic “Maiden” style. They belong in a step below Led Zeppelin as an iconic hard rock band.MariotaTheGawd said:
How old are you?
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still metal as hell today. -
I first learned about these metal chicks from @SwayeBad_MotherDucker said:
Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justiceMariotaTheGawd said:
How old are you?Purple_Pills said:
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came outhttps://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA -
Who cares how well they play. look at those melons on them!
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I suppose at 36 Grandparenting is possiblePurple_Pills said:
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds -
The mouth-breathers moaning in the background, priceless.Bad_MotherDucker said:
Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justiceMariotaTheGawd said:
How old are you?Purple_Pills said:
F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:joeEDangerously said:
Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metalhttps://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came outhttps://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA -
Speaking of female Iron Maiden covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjB6ISyiXg
fuck off, i know i've posted this 23 tims. -
My 2 cents.
Rock or Hard Rock is more blues based and many of the songs are in the blues scale. Metal is not blues based (as often) and many of the songs are in a major scale.
https://youtu.be/EWYbiHPtr6E
