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Would you consider these groups "Heavy Metal"?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Fuck off
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    RaceBannon said:

    Fuck off

    I've probably forgotten more metal than you've heard
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Awesome thanks for the update
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    RaceBannon said:

    Awesome thanks for the update

    Don't be a bitch about a little joke
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 116,039 Founders Club
    Cool. Good to know
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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,594 Founders Club
    MariotaTheGawd said:

    joeEDangerously said:

    All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.

    Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal

    AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.

    Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.

    Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal

    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    Use of a keyboard most certainly does not disqualify a band from being metal
    True, if your bpm's are high enough and you worship Satan it can override the weirdo, nerdy keyboard player in the group.
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  • Joey
    Joey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,594 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    joeEDangerously said:

    All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.

    Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal

    AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.

    Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.

    Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal

    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    Disagree.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpfzCxiQ-A
    don't get clever with me, I've seen these dudes and Dimmu Borgir a couple of times.
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  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    joeEDangerously said:



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
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  • MariotaTheGawd
    MariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    edited March 2019
    Purple_Pills said:

    joeEDangerously said:



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
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  • Purple_Pills
    Purple_Pills Member Posts: 2,110
    MariotaTheGawd said:



    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still metal as hell today.

    “The Trooper” is a legendary hard rock song. Iron Maiden slows down way too much to be what I would consider metal (Reign in Blood, GWAR, etc.). They like to start slow, build up, then slow down. Or do so in a different pattern. Watch their documentaries, they admit that it is the classic “Maiden” style. They belong in a step below Led Zeppelin as an iconic hard rock band.
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