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Would you consider these groups "Heavy Metal"?

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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,990 Founders Club
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Fuck off

    I've probably forgotten more metal than you've heard
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,990 Founders Club
    Awesome thanks for the update
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441

    Awesome thanks for the update

    Don't be a bitch about a little joke
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,990 Founders Club
    Cool. Good to know
  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,700 Founders Club

    All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.

    Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal

    AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.

    Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.

    Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal

    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    Use of a keyboard most certainly does not disqualify a band from being metal
    True, if your bpm's are high enough and you worship Satan it can override the weirdo, nerdy keyboard player in the group.
  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,700 Founders Club

    All 4 Yellow listed definitely inspired metal bands but none should be considered Heavy Metal.

    Deep Purple certainly has some heaviness but I'm afraid the use of a keyboard in every song disqualifies them. Sure its been used by Sabbath, Dio and others on some occasion but even Blackmore himself considered them an instrumental jam band who just happened to be able to use lyrics... Not metal

    AC/DC uses about 5 chords, no palm muting, sings only about sex. Not enough depressing shit. Love them to death... Not metal.

    Zepplin is too blues based, has too many folky sounding tunes. Certainly has elements of heavy... Not metal.

    Van Halen is imo the closest, Eddie can be really heavy, has plenty of chunky riffs, super hot rodded solos. Arguably the most influential guitar player ever, but as much as I love them they have way too many songs with Motown-esque harmonies... Not metal

    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    Disagree.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gpfzCxiQ-A
    don't get clever with me, I've seen these dudes and Dimmu Borgir a couple of times.
  • Purple_PillsPurple_Pills Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,017 Founders Club



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    edited March 2019



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
  • Purple_PillsPurple_Pills Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 2,017 Founders Club



    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still metal as hell today.

    “The Trooper” is a legendary hard rock song. Iron Maiden slows down way too much to be what I would consider metal (Reign in Blood, GWAR, etc.). They like to start slow, build up, then slow down. Or do so in a different pattern. Watch their documentaries, they admit that it is the classic “Maiden” style. They belong in a step below Led Zeppelin as an iconic hard rock band.
  • Bad_MotherDuckerBad_MotherDucker Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,324 Swaye's Wigwam



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
    Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justice

    https://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441



    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still metal as hell today.

    “The Trooper” is a legendary hard rock song. Iron Maiden slows down way too much to be what I would consider metal (Reign in Blood, GWAR, etc.). They like to start slow, build up, then slow down. Or do so in a different pattern. Watch their documentaries, they admit that it is the classic “Maiden” style. They belong in a step below Led Zeppelin as an iconic hard rock band.
    I'm not sure what to tell you if you think The Trooper isnt a metal song.
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,437 Founders Club



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
    Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justice

    https://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA
    I first learned about these metal chicks from @Swaye
  • El_KEl_K Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,222 Swaye's Wigwam
    Who cares how well they play. look at those melons on them!
  • MariotaTheGawdMariotaTheGawd Member Posts: 1,441
    i liked this cover with dave davidson from revocation and mutoid man

    https://youtu.be/EWYbiHPtr6E
  • JoeyJoey Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,700 Founders Club



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    I suppose at 36 Grandparenting is possible
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter



    Also, you're a straight up fag if you dont think Iron Maiden is metal

    F off grandpa. To us youngsters who were introduced to them via recent documentaries and televised concerts, they are not that heavy. Their concert staples are shit like this:

    https://youtu.be/eHg9PJc1Nds
    How old are you?

    Plus heaviness isnt just how noisy the thing is. The Trooper has one of the great riffs ever and is still as metal today as it was when it came out
    Was just listening to Trooper today. Such a kick ass song and these ladies do it justice

    https://youtu.be/wz9VyggeSbA
    The mouth-breathers moaning in the background, priceless.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,499 Standard Supporter
    Speaking of female Iron Maiden covers.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yjB6ISyiXg

    fuck off, i know i've posted this 23 tims.
  • alumni94alumni94 Member Posts: 4,858
    My 2 cents.

    Rock or Hard Rock is more blues based and many of the songs are in the blues scale. Metal is not blues based (as often) and many of the songs are in a major scale.

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