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Soul Train BOTBs Elite 8 (1960s) - #1 James Brown vs #2 Ray Charles

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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,878
    #1 James Brown

    alumni94 said:

    If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.

    Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.

    As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.

    On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.

    I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.

    1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
    2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
    3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
    4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,885 Standard Supporter
    #2 Ray Charles
    alumni94 said:

    alumni94 said:

    If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.

    Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.

    As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.

    On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.

    I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.

    1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
    2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
    3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
    4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style.

    Stevie wins all four of your criteria.

  • GrandpaSankey
    GrandpaSankey Member Posts: 958
    #2 Ray Charles
    alumni94 said:

    alumni94 said:

    If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.

    Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.

    As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.

    On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.

    I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.

    1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
    2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
    3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
    4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style.