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Soul Train BOTBs Elite 8 (1960s) - #1 James Brown vs #2 Ray Charles
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#1 James Brown
I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.PurpleThrobber said:
Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.alumni94 said:If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.
As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.
On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.
1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style. -
#2 Ray Charlesalumni94 said:
I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.PurpleThrobber said:
Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.alumni94 said:If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.
As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.
On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.
1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style.
Stevie wins all four of your criteria.
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#2 Ray Charlesalumni94 said:
I agree about your statements around Stevie Wonder, but I think these are the factors.PurpleThrobber said:
Disagree - James Brown was a RIDICULOUS entertainer. Hardest working man in show biz, you know.alumni94 said:If James Brown doesn't win, you all know nothing about music.
As far as a musician -he was a'ight. He had his schtick screaming and dancing and wearing capes and shit. But solely on listening to his tunes....just a'ight.
On the other hand, you've got someone like Stevie Wonder who is a fucking prodigy musically. Total triple threat - singer, musician, composer. Prince probably was in that mode too until he apparently got too deep into other dabblings.
1. Hits created. Did they create music they public liked. (Not a one hit wonder either, had to do it over time).
2. Did they entertain. I'm not a bit fan of this, but I understand it's a factor.
3. Are they a great musician/singer. Talent counts.
4. Did they influence. I think this is the most important. They could have been ok in the other factors, but have a huge influence. I think this is where James Brown excels. He created a music style.


