Pac 12 Recruiting Rankings through the Petermen Era
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LOL CUOGUW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
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I put this together a couple weeks ago. This year was an outlier as far as Top-10 recruits leaving the conference, and I agree it's largely due to the LA schools being shit.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think the fears are overstated of this being a meaningful trend. USC and UCLA are down, SoCal kids are looking elsewhere and are more mobile than ever. The current champs lay to the East so a couple of big tim recruits are heading there. I don't think this is historically all that much different than other periods. Worshington needs to win something big and another team needs to step up to being a meaningful #2 banner bearer for the conference and it'll shift back. Definitely an opportunity for leveling up for all the schools that have a footprint in Socal.greenblood said:My concern is if the current trend continues #1 in the Pac 12 in recruiting might be average on the national stage when you consider how many west coast players are going to Texas and SEC country. A #1 Pac 12 ranking might be 15th in the country. Yeah great...you can have multiple 12-1 seasons, but when Pac 12 teams go out of conference to play somebody with a pulse (Washington included) they will get destroyed.
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11-2 record, top 10 recruiting class!Swaye said:
LOL CUOGUW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
(in the conference)
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Yeah, seems moar like an ESPN talking poont for them to push the narrative of East Coast supremacy further. It's still a relatively low percentage and subject to a swing back with a good year or two of recruiting by West coast teams.UWhuskytskeet said:
I put this together a couple weeks ago. This year was an outlier as far as Top-10 recruits leaving the conference, and I agree it's largely due to the LA schools being shit.UW_Doog_Bot said:
I think the fears are overstated of this being a meaningful trend. USC and UCLA are down, SoCal kids are looking elsewhere and are more mobile than ever. The current champs lay to the East so a couple of big tim recruits are heading there. I don't think this is historically all that much different than other periods. Worshington needs to win something big and another team needs to step up to being a meaningful #2 banner bearer for the conference and it'll shift back. Definitely an opportunity for leveling up for all the schools that have a footprint in Socal.greenblood said:My concern is if the current trend continues #1 in the Pac 12 in recruiting might be average on the national stage when you consider how many west coast players are going to Texas and SEC country. A #1 Pac 12 ranking might be 15th in the country. Yeah great...you can have multiple 12-1 seasons, but when Pac 12 teams go out of conference to play somebody with a pulse (Washington included) they will get destroyed.
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Unfortunately you can't sort the 247 rankings by average player rating, you have to brute force this by taking the values and sorting them yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
But I went ahead and did it for you on a simple spreadsheet. Check your Inbox brotato.
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@UW_Doog_Bot please use this info to create a new chart.DoogCourics said:
Unfortunately you can't sort the 247 rankings by average player rating, you have to brute force this by taking the values and sorting them yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
But I went ahead and did it for you on a simple spreadsheet. Check your Inbox brotato.
As I was pulling the average player rating it was clear that the overall class rankings aren't the thing to follow. Too much awarded for having a large class. I'd love to see the chart for the average level of player being added to each school over time.
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Let the circle jerk commence!DoogCourics said:
@UW_Doog_Bot please use this info to create a new chart.DoogCourics said:
Unfortunately you can't sort the 247 rankings by average player rating, you have to brute force this by taking the values and sorting them yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
But I went ahead and did it for you on a simple spreadsheet. Check your Inbox brotato.
As I was pulling the average player rating it was clear that the overall class rankings aren't the thing to follow. Too much awarded for having a large class. I'd love to see the chart for the average level of player being added to each school over time.
Thanks and I love you!
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As Ranks.
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UW_Doog_Bot said:
Let the circle jerk commence!DoogCourics said:
@UW_Doog_Bot please use this info to create a new chart.DoogCourics said:
Unfortunately you can't sort the 247 rankings by average player rating, you have to brute force this by taking the values and sorting them yourself.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Exactly what I needed, 247 shows a whole lot more variance for sure but similar trends. There's definitely a lot of variation bc of class sizes. @DoogCourics is there a way to sort the 247 rankings by average score or do I need to just brute force this by taking values and sorting them myself? 2016 is the obvious outlier but if you look at it by average score we jump to 4th instead of 8th.DoogCourics said:@UW_Doog_Bot and @Swaye
Here you are:
https://247sports.com/Season/2014-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2015-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2017-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/TeamRankings/?Conference=Pac-12
If you go to 247 team rankings, it auto sends you to composite. Just delete the word "composite" from the url and you'll get what you're looking for.
I went ahead and gave you all the links you need so you don't have to jump around, and I sorted it all to the Pac-12 specific for you. Enjoy!
But I went ahead and did it for you on a simple spreadsheet. Check your Inbox brotato.
As I was pulling the average player rating it was clear that the overall class rankings aren't the thing to follow. Too much awarded for having a large class. I'd love to see the chart for the average level of player being added to each school over time.
Thanks and I love you!
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Great fucking jerb @DoogCourics and @UW_Doog_Bot I have been saying for ages that in addition to never using composite (because fuck ESPN they couldn't find the WC on a map), we should also NEVER use class ranks. It weights size too heavily, which is stupid, and also the reason @Doog_de_Jour doesn't like me.
The only way looking at recruiting makes sense is using 247 rankings, because while not perfect it is the best of the available bunch, and looking at per recruit average. Who cares if you get 28 kids that are okay, I'd rather have 15 that kick ass.
Funny when you look at this on a per recruit basis, Pete has kicked Oregons ass 4 years straight (BONEM), though to be fair it was by the narrowest of margins this year. Essentially, this chart shows we are reaching the promised land of the best recruiting in the Pac12. Too bad the land is inhabited by dwarfs, but still. Good chit.
