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Pac 12 Recruiting Rankings through the Petermen Era

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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,493 Founders Club



    So you can definitely see where we've come from. The next few years should put us squarely in the CFP hunt with the talent we have. Some luck and a talented qb(Skinny please!) could be enough to put us over the top.

    Next up, historic look at Clemson Dabo era vs. Peterman era.

    Clearly right in the middle of tier 2. That is excellent. Push it up one more point and you are in rarified air.
  • HouhuskyHouhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited February 2019
    Swaye said:

    Great fucking jerb @DoogCourics and @UW_Doog_Bot I have been saying for ages that in addition to never using composite (because fuck ESPN they couldn't find the WC on a map), we should also NEVER use class ranks. It weights size too heavily, which is stupid, and also the reason @Doog_de_Jour doesn't like me.

    The only way looking at recruiting makes sense is using 247 rankings, because while not perfect it is the best of the available bunch, and looking at per recruit average. Who cares if you get 28 kids that are okay, I'd rather have 15 that kick ass.

    Funny when you look at this on a per recruit basis, Pete has kicked Oregons ass 4 years straight (BONEM), though to be fair it was by the narrowest of margins this year. Essentially, this chart shows we are reaching the promised land of the best recruiting in the Pac12. Too bad the land is inhabited by dwarfs, but still. Good chit.

    I wonder if you could simplify things and get a more accurate picture if you just compared the average of the top 10-15 recruits in each class? Actual class quality seems much more heavily dependent on quality at the top rather than the mediocre depth.

    Simplified for morons:
    Class A: 10 5 stars and 10 1 stars = average 3
    Class B: 20 3 stars = average 3

    Both classes would get the same average but one is significantly more desirable/impactful than the other.
  • DoogCouricsDoogCourics Member Posts: 5,739
    edited February 2019



    So you can definitely see where we've come from. The next few years should put us squarely in the CFP hunt with the talent we have. Some luck and a talented qb(Skinny please!) could be enough to put us over the top.

    Next up, historic look at Clemson Dabo era vs. Peterman era.

    @UW_Doog_Bot

    Data for your Dabo vs Peterman.




    Washington Recruiting:

    2015 Recruiting Class - 25th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 6 Four Stars - 17 Three Stars - 85.80 Average - 6 Blue Chip

    2016 Recruiting Class - 37th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 5 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.18 Average - 5 Blue Chip

    2017 Recruiting Class - 22nd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 88.22 Average - 8 Blue Chip

    2018 Recruiting Class - 13th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 9 Three Stars - 90.45 Average - 11 Blue Chip

    2019 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 16 Four Stars - 7 Three Stars - 90.70 Average - 16 Blue Chip


    UW rated much much better by 247 with a higher average rating per player, better ranking classes, and more Blue Chip players.



    Clemson Recruiting:

    2009 Recruiting Class - 247 Ratings Unavailable

    2010 Recruiting Class - 247 Ratings Unavailable

    2011 Recruiting Class - 11th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 19 Three Stars - 84.80 Average - 11 Blue Chip

    2012 Recruiting Class - 23rd in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 12 Three Stars - 87.85 Average - 8 Blue Chip

    2013 Recruiting Class - 15th in Country - 0 Five Star - 10 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 88.04 Average - 10 Blue Chip

    2014 Recruiting Class - 24th in Country - 0 Five Star - 8 Four Stars - 10 Three Stars - 88.15 Average - 8 Blue Chip

    2015 Recruiting Class - 10th in Country - 3 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 11 Three Stars - 87.38 Average - 11 Blue Chip

    2016 Recruiting Class - 8th in Country - 2 Five Star - 12 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 90.62 Average - 14 Blue Chip

    2017 Recruiting Class - 19th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 8 Four Stars - 6 Three Stars - 91.64 Average - 8 Blue Chip

    2018 Recruiting Class - 6th in Country - 5 Five Stars - 7 Four Stars - 4 Three Stars - 92.71 Average - 12 Blue Chip

    2019 Recruiting Class - 14th in Country - 0 Five Stars - 11 Four Stars - 16 Three Stars - 89.03 Average - 13 Blue Chip
  • BayDawgBayDawg Member Posts: 1,623


    Romar inbounds play?
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    BayDawg said:


    Romar inbounds play?

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,824 Swaye's Wigwam
    Kind of surprised by the lackluster reaction to the fact that we have been recruiting better than Clemson for two years until after they won their national title. I expected more boner.gifs
  • dirtysouwfdawgdirtysouwfdawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 13,097 Swaye's Wigwam

    Kind of surprised by the lackluster reaction to the fact that we have been recruiting better than Clemson for two years until after they won their national title. I expected more boner.gifs

    Dabi won meaningful bowls games with lesser talent, so no boner for peterman
    You nailed it cobra. When peterman wins a NY6 I think the pre-funk t-shirts should have Optimus prime with the boner and an oversized pic of Pete’s face. A classy purple shirt with some gold.

    I’m not rich so only the first 81 people that show up get a free shirt.
  • vadawgvadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
    Clemson’s classes may have ranked lower but...

    Southern Blacks > West Coast Half Blacks

    No matter what 24/7 ranks them.
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    vadawg said:

    Clemson’s classes may have ranked lower but...

    Southern Blacks > West Coast Half Blacks

    No matter what 24/7 ranks them.

    Bullshit
  • bearcats6969bearcats6969 Member Posts: 77
    Like Fickel is an up and coming recruiter. Probably better than Peterson if we’re being honest with ourselves.
  • vadawgvadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam

    vadawg said:

    Clemson’s classes may have ranked lower but...

    Southern Blacks > West Coast Half Blacks

    No matter what 24/7 ranks them.

    Bullshit
    never lived in the southern US.
  • vadawgvadawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 467 Swaye's Wigwam
  • HillsboroDuckHillsboroDuck Member Posts: 9,186
    vadawg said:

    vadawg said:

    Clemson’s classes may have ranked lower but...

    Southern Blacks > West Coast Half Blacks

    No matter what 24/7 ranks them.

    Bullshit
    never lived in the southern US.
    Only like half the southern states
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