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This is a pretty balanced look at climate change

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    That's Sun-Doesn't-Warm-The-Earth fucking stupid.

    Sun doesn't warm earth, water vapor isn't a more prevalent greehouse gas than CO2, CO2 is lighter than air. Holy shit you are stupid! Mix up some baking soda and vinegar, set up a ramp of lit candles in a basin, and see the shit for yourself.

    Here is another Satan for you and your bible thumping ilk to slay:

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2014-01/uota-sfi010614.php
    Making blanket statements that are not entirely relevant to the basic climate mechanics causing global warming is not scientifically honest.
  • Purple_PillsPurple_Pills Member Posts: 2,109
    edited January 2014



    Making blanket statements that are not entirely relevant to the basic climate mechanics causing global warming is not scientifically honest.

    The facts on the ground are that there has been a negligible impact on climate from the increase of anthropogenically produced/released CO2. Again, around 1 degree since 1880. Less if you use centigrade.

    What side is being dishonest? The lying, thieving religious wackos you side with predicting fire and brimstone for the last two decades or people like me pointing out that the earth's temps are flat over the last 15 years?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,172 Founders Club
    All of a sudden collegedoog is too busy when we get to the heart of the matter. Nowhere in the volumes of shit he has posted is there any cost benefit analysis or any science on what we have to do when to get what result. For such a settled science that is so dialed in that is very strange.

    I guess we'll just buy some fucked up lightbulbs and put even more taxes on fuel and let it play out.

    Pathetic
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited January 2014

    All of a sudden collegedoog is too busy when we get to the heart of the matter. Nowhere in the volumes of shit he has posted is there any cost benefit analysis or any science on what we have to do when to get what result. For such a settled science that is so dialed in that is very strange.

    I guess we'll just buy some fucked up lightbulbs and put even more taxes on fuel and let it play out.

    Pathetic

    The thing you can't seem to comprehend is that there is no easy fix to this problem. We can't continue to rely on fossil fuels and we can't immediately cut off the head.

    You want me to give you an easy solution to the problem. The thing is I can't.

    I can disprove that the AGW skeptics are dumbfucks, however.
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    CollegeDoog said it isn't about warming anyway. He said "oil is great", and shifted the debate to what will people in the next three or four generations use when the oil supply fails to meet demand. Isn't that correct? In that debate, it isn't about science, it's about economics. A topic he is woefully lacking in.

    "Finance is his 'wheelhouse'".
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    LOL I'm glad you brought up thermodynamics because now you're operating in my #Wheelhouse.

    The thermodynamic mechanism of global warming could not be more clear to anyone with an understanding of basic atmospheric physics and molecular composition.

    If you want to argue against laws of thermal physics like Kirchhoff's law of thermal radiation, and proven theories such as the greenhouse effect be my guest.

    I can already bet you're going to say the first law of thermodynamics, "energy can be transformed from one form to another, but cannot be created or destroyed," is proof that the CO2 doesn't cause temperature increases. Fox News has actually trotted out a meteorologist to argue that this law is proof that AGW is impossible, not realizing that in doing so he is arguing against the greenhouse effect (which was actually developed a century ago). The CO2 emitted isn't the external source of heat, it's the sun. The increased CO2 traps the infrared rays reflected by the Earth's surface on a greater scale, which is then reflected in all directions (Kirchhoff's law) and in doing so warms the earth. In 2013 we passed 400 parts per million, an unprecedented number in all of the Holocene. It's only going to increase faster and you can guess what those ramifications will be.

    If you want to argue against that go ahead, but trying to disprove the laws of physics is generally a losing battle, and you may want to save yourself the embarrassment.
    I can't keep track of all of CollegeDoug's "Wheelhouse"[s]...
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    You know what REALLY fucks the poor and middle class?

    Things like the 2012-2013 drought which cost farmers between 75-150 Billion, and affected US GDP by .5-1%.

    Higher food prices historically fuck over the poor the most.

    It's a big picture thing.

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    Finally, he mentioned the $1 Trillion for the Obamacare Experiment?
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    YEAH! $24 Billion! That's why Obama had to throw $1 Trillion down the Green toilet in just one year to help keep up! YEAH!

    Remember "Finance (or something) is his Wheelhouse."
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,172 Founders Club

    All of a sudden collegedoog is too busy when we get to the heart of the matter. Nowhere in the volumes of shit he has posted is there any cost benefit analysis or any science on what we have to do when to get what result. For such a settled science that is so dialed in that is very strange.

    I guess we'll just buy some fucked up lightbulbs and put even more taxes on fuel and let it play out.

    Pathetic

    The thing you can't seem to comprehend is that there is no easy fix to this problem. We can't continue to rely on fossil fuels and we can't immediately cut off the head.

    You want me to give you an easy solution to the problem. The thing is I can't.

    I can disprove that the AGW skeptics are dumbfucks, however.
    So in other words, your settled science with all the answers can't provide the only answer that matters. So go ahead and shut the fuck up until it can. You haven't proved shit
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991

    There has been no change in solar activity significant enough to explain the recent warming of the planet.

    Do I need to show pictures covering the basics?

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    Increased CO2 traps more infrared rays and thus traps more heat.

    Hth
    Pictures are my Wheelhouse.

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  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991


    Recent warming? Temps are flat over the last 15 years and have only increased about a degree since 1880 despite the added CO2.

    Increased water vapor traps more infrared rays and thus trap more heat. Amount of water vapor > amount of CO2 gas. Let's ban water!

    Fucking idiots like you are just getting crooks like Al Gore rich.....

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  • All of a sudden collegedoog is too busy when we get to the heart of the matter. Nowhere in the volumes of shit he has posted is there any cost benefit analysis or any science on what we have to do when to get what result. For such a settled science that is so dialed in that is very strange.

    I guess we'll just buy some fucked up lightbulbs and put even more taxes on fuel and let it play out.

    Pathetic

    The thing you can't seem to comprehend is that there is no easy fix to this problem. We can't continue to rely on fossil fuels and we can't immediately cut off the head.

    You want me to give you an easy solution to the problem. The thing is I can't.

    I can disprove that the AGW skeptics are dumbfucks, however.
    So in other words, your settled science with all the answers can't provide the only answer that matters. So go ahead and shut the fuck up until it can. You haven't proved shit

    The science is settled.

    The solutions are in progress.

    Hth
  • death2ducksdeath2ducks Member Posts: 991
    edited January 2014
    This thread doesn't have enough charts. IS THIS THE "HOCKEY STICK CHART"?

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  • allpurpleallgoldallpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    edited January 2014
    RaceBannon-So in other words, your settled science with all the answers can't provide the only answer that matters. So go ahead and shut the fuck up until it can. You haven't proved shit

    You've entered creationist territory with that one.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123
    Can we go back to talking x's and o's, critiquing whores, and bashing Kim?
  • unfrozencavemanunfrozencaveman Member Posts: 2,303
    WTF is this nonsense?

    Pollution is a negative externality - true. Market failure in theory

    But if you're going to do an honest cost/benefit analysis, and your trump card is anthropological climate change, make sure to count the positive externalities as well

    For example, my drunk brother in law is now able to grow all kinds of red wine grapes in N-Central WA. Just whites in decades past. This has grown his business exponentially. Count it

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,172 Founders Club

    RaceBannon-So in other words, your settled science with all the answers can't provide the only answer that matters. So go ahead and shut the fuck up until it can. You haven't proved shit

    You've entered creationist territory with that one.

    The only one peddling faith here is collegedoog.
  • When Purple Pills stops peddling misleading half truths like,

    "The Sun is solely responsible for heating the Earth,"

    "CO2 isn't the most important greenhouse gas,"

    Or

    "Averages for the last 15 years are constant,"

    He can have a seat at the big boy table.

    Until then, c'est la vie.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,172 Founders Club
    The solutions are in progress. We just don't have any cost benefit analysis or idea what they are. Too busy scaring the sheep. Have faith
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