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  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
  • Doog_de_Jour
    Doog_de_Jour Member Posts: 8,042 Standard Supporter
    Buddha but not Baker

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
    Not surprised. You’re very disagreeable. 😁
  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Well said
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,720 Standard Supporter
    Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    Freedom of religion. Government cannot tax the existence of a church.
  • BennyBeaver
    BennyBeaver Member Posts: 13,346
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot
    Swaye said:

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
    Not surprised. You’re very disagreeable. 😁

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
    Not surprised. You’re very disagreeable. 😁
    He's also a fag.
    Swaye said:

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
    Not surprised. You’re very disagreeable. 😁

    whlinder said:

    Huh?

    Losing their religion: why US churches are on the decline

    In 1972 92% of Americans said they were Christian, Pew reported, but by 2070 that number will drop to below 50% – and the number of “religiously unaffiliated” Americans – or ‘nones’ will probably outnumber those adhering to Christianity.
    Looks like the communists won 1A won

    Churches have only themselves to blame

    I'm an unchurched believer
    It's a beautiful thing- i.e., no state religion or prohibition on religious belief.
    Tim to shitcan their tax exempt status.
    I’m not completely opposed to this as I think the whole tax system in this country is fucked up and needs to be reformed from top to bottom, but anytime people pick on churches it’s not done with a lot of thought/knowledge of the current system, and they especially don’t consider the unforeseen consequences.

    It’s tough because the secular (government/ruler/businesses) and religion have in a strange way been doing this weird system of checks and balances throughout history. When one side gets too powerful or corrupted, the other side balances the scales. But I digress.

    Most aren’t aware that the clergy actually do pay income taxes in most cases:

    https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc417

    And some churches pay property taxes, but only get exemptions from it if they perform certain charitable services just like their secular nonprofit counterparts:

    https://propertytax.dor.wa.gov/Documents/Chapter 9 -6 - Nonprofit church brochure.pdf



    Look, I’m not an expert, but I know enough to say this is a this topic is misunderstood and requires some nuance.

    Disagree.
    Not surprised. You’re very disagreeable. 😁
    He's also a fag.
    Wanna cyber?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,693 Founders Club
    edited May 1
    Flying spaghetti monsterinan - God's not real you fucking idiot

    So @dnc I randomly polled 3 devout sermon seekers recently at my company to see if they could answer (a) in what year (or at least the century) in which the Council of Nicaea occurred and (b) its significance.

    None had heard of it as"it's not mentioned in the Bible".

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,434 Founders Club
    Sermon Seeker - TRUE believer in REAL God (protestant division)

    NOC