Question for the bored
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Are you saying the discord channel is growing and flourishing? I haven't been over there since late last year. Either way, good luck to them.Canadawg said:Yeah I definitely recognize the malarkey keeps the machine running I just mean there could be an emphasis on not squashing legitimate discussion when it does come up and possibly give it a more established platform somehow. I guarantee there are people who have popped in here over the years looking for husky football talk get turned off by the ratio of nonsense.
For me it was noticeable a few years ago when some posters left for their own site because alot of them were bringing interesting football discussions and recruiting. Obviously their formula (and website itself) was a train wreck but now there's a discord channel funneling in people desperate for a cohesive husky football outlet and I just find it a shame that this site isn't where people are landing.
Your words are very similar to what Chest was telling me back in 2014-15. He said if I didn't cut out the swearing and malarkey then the site would collapse. But at our peak, which was following the 2019 Rose Bowl, we were at 2 million page views a month. So our formula does work.
Compared to August of 2021, our traffic right now is down about 45%, but donations are down 15%. So that came as a pleasant surprise.
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There seems to be quite the contingent on the discord but it's a terrible platform imo.DerekJohnson said:
Are you saying the discord channel is growing and flourishing? I haven't been over there since late last year. Either way, good luck to them.Canadawg said:Yeah I definitely recognize the malarkey keeps the machine running I just mean there could be an emphasis on not squashing legitimate discussion when it does come up and possibly give it a more established platform somehow. I guarantee there are people who have popped in here over the years looking for husky football talk get turned off by the ratio of nonsense.
For me it was noticeable a few years ago when some posters left for their own site because alot of them were bringing interesting football discussions and recruiting. Obviously their formula (and website itself) was a train wreck but now there's a discord channel funneling in people desperate for a cohesive husky football outlet and I just find it a shame that this site isn't where people are landing.
Your words are very similar to what Chest was telling me back in 2014-15. He said if I didn't cut out the swearing and malarkey then the site would collapse. But at our peak, which was following the 2019 Rose Bowl, we were at 2 million page views a month. So our formula does work.
Compared to August of 2021, our traffic right now is down about 45%, but donations are down 15%. So that came as a pleasant surprise.
Anyway, thank you for your feedback.
I think you can keep everything that's here while nourishing more, that's all. Thanks for listening to a relative newby -
Please to be providing examples of actual cause and effect. Sure people left but maybe because they could not take legitimate criticism.Canadawg said:Yeah I definitely recognize the malarkey keeps the machine running I just mean there could be an emphasis on not squashing legitimate discussion when it does come up and possibly give it a more established platform somehow. I guarantee there are people who have popped in here over the years looking for husky football talk get turned off by the ratio of nonsense.
For me it was noticeable a few years ago when some posters left for their own site because alot of them were bringing interesting football discussions and recruiting. Obviously their formula (and website itself) was a train wreck but now there's a discord channel funneling in people desperate for a cohesive husky football outlet and I just find it a shame that this site isn't where people are landing. -
I've had something typed into this box since the day you asked the question, but I hesitate to post it because it's beating a dead horse from me, it's an unpopular view, and I recognize that I may be wrong. Since this has semi-swerved back toward legitimate feedback, though, what the hell:
My problem has always been Vanilla. I've never had a "social media" account because I much prefer forums for online interaction. Sure, half my posts here are met with a "tl;dr" or "fuck off, Tequilla," but only half the time... Point is, forums are my jam, and I post on a lot of them. This one has to be my least favorite from a software experience standpoint. Every time Vanilla touches the code (and why, exactly, are they even doing that in the first place?), they seem to break something or add a "feature" that sucks. It's been at least a year now that clicking on a link brings you do a goddamned splash page telling you, "Hey, guess what links do: They take you to a different page! Good luck, and rep the north!" As of about two weeks ago, I'm going to post this, and it'll take me back to the parent page, where I'll see that there's a new post in this thread: the one I just posted. "Chins are not working, and Vanilla's been notified. We'll get them back next month."
All of this in the most expensive forum software that has ever existed, when there are alternatives that work and are literally free. It's such a weird value proposition to me, and I've said this before. The end result is that we have to raise nearly $10K to stay above water every year, which, divided by the number of people who see that kind of value in the place, puts the price pretty high. As high as a MotoGP streaming subscription, for instance, which is crazy when you consider what they are relatively.
We've been over this before, and I understand the counterarguments: People like Vanilla (familiarity?), Stalin wants to be jacking to Korean girls fishing on YouTube and not configuring and updating forum software all the time, etc. There's also a part of me that thinks maybe the high barrier of entry (without being a freeloader) is a good thing, as this place isn't for everyone.
It wouldn't be fair to point out what I don't like without pointing out the positive as well, so I'm going to somewhat counter @Canadawg's criticism: Although he's right that this isn't necessarily the place you want to go if you want to have a good ol' Huskie football circle jerk, it's pretty much the only place you can go where you can be honest about how badly the coaches suck or how much of a pussy Asa Turner is or how rad it is that Myles Gaskin fucked a girl so hard she shit herself. I don't come here for Husky football because I don't care that much anymore. I come here for the same reason people who quit smoking like hanging out in smokey bars: I've been to the Tug, so I want all of you to die painfully, but damn it if I don't appreciate you all for being willing to laugh at wheelchair jokes in a time where nothing's allowed to be funny anymore.
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Hey, look! A new post in this thread!
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It's Puppy, Yomasturbates, his other alias, and Bill. Roaddawg is potential. Sorry.Canadawg said:
Hard to come up with examples but I meant jokes people know will get chins and likes. It's a quick high but doesn't add substance to the site and clogs up discussion. 81st time type jokes, pea patch complaints and nonsense puppy stories have a place I'm sure but would be nice to talk football sometimes. Maybe a "Serious Football Thread" of some type would be worth trying?DerekJohnson said:
Can you give me general examples of the pandering you're talking about? I don't see much pandering going on, except maybe in the Tug Tavern a little.Canadawg said:I get why there are vote buttons for posts but I would hazard a guess that if they were taken away there would be more comments in general and less pandering posts and comments
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I just hope once the season starts it will be more about football than malarkey. Likely wont' be though. I think Canadawg has a point - even the jaded guys here (and especially them) have a lot of football knowledge that would be cool to read, see their analysis. I'm not that guy - but those that are could make this board better I think. Tell us why Asa sucks (yeah I see he misses tackles, isn't physical, etc.); but I bet he's also out of position, doesn't react properly, is some of that coaching, are all DBs underperforming. Make a case and show off your football insights. I wouldn't even know whether you're right, but its fun to read people who at least present themselves as knowing their stuff. And points for mock ups, step by step explanations of how a play broke down, etc. I know that stuff is time consuming, but can really add value.
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Disagree. This place is at its best when the team is either 1. Close, but still maddeningly not there or 2. Terrible and a melting pot of @haie(t), shitty takes, and calls for vengeance/murdertheknowledge said:Man, if you could get the Husky’s to win at about a 80% clip over the next fifteen years and recruit at a top ten level that would be a great start. Oh and finally build that mythical fence around the state of Washington. This place would be a lot of fun after that.
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@dnc or @GrundleStiltzkin there's a copy pasta for this that I can't find. This place is slipping and I'm part of the problem.Canadawg said:Yeah I definitely recognize the malarkey keeps the machine running I just mean there could be an emphasis on not squashing legitimate discussion when it does come up and possibly give it a more established platform somehow. I guarantee there are people who have popped in here over the years looking for husky football talk get turned off by the ratio of nonsense.
For me it was noticeable a few years ago when some posters left for their own site because alot of them were bringing interesting football discussions and recruiting. Obviously their formula (and website itself) was a train wreck but now there's a discord channel funneling in people desperate for a cohesive husky football outlet and I just find it a shame that this site isn't where people are landing. -
I vote yea on Proposition Malarkey
