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This was the beginning of the end of Don James at UW

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.

    Beat Oregon,
    Nothing else matters.
    Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."

    And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
    I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.
    Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.

    Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
    So, the people who were saying the James had lost it were full of sh*t like you. Is that your point? If so, well played. Don't get the dazzler handle for nothing.
    I think I made my point, Gasbag. But just for you: the TugCon narrative today is that the (ultra left-wing) UW administration wanted James gone by 1984, yet after four consecutive crummy seasons, starting with 1985, he didn't get fired even though absolutely no one would have mourned his firing at the time.

    The TugCon narrative is wrong, of course. Nothing new under the Sun.
    That's your dodge for being made a fool of yet again

    Bush wasn't president in 84 moron

    Beginning

    stuff in the middle

    End

    Beginning of the end

    Dumbass

    I think you've confused yourself. Pick a lane, lady.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,967 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.

    Beat Oregon,
    Nothing else matters.
    Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."

    And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
    I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.
    Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.

    Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
    8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.

    It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
    1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.

    1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.

    1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.

    1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.

    Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
    He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003
    edited August 2022

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.

    Beat Oregon,
    Nothing else matters.
    Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."

    And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
    I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.
    Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.

    Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
    8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.

    It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
    1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.

    1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.

    1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.

    1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.

    Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
    He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.
    That stretch from '85 to '88 was similar to Lambright's tenure. It might not get you fired, but it could. And again, if Gerberding had wanted James gone, he would have gotten minimal backlash after the '88 season. But he didn't want James gone; he didn't hate athletics; and he wasn't some radical lefty. The whole "upper campus was out to get Don James" nonsense has been made up out of whole cloth by a fan base that conflates its every frustration with its politics. It's especially silly because Don James wasn't fired. He could probably have coached at the UW as long as he wanted.

    And James shouldn't have made an appearance at a campaign rally for anyone. It was bad judgment. But it didn't have anything to do with anything in 1993.





  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003

    Anyway Derek was right and H is a pathological liar

    Water is wet

    Well, at least as it was explained to you.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,103 Founders Club
    Sad

    And pathetic

    Take the L loser
  • hardhathardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    This thread is still going? sheesh.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003

    Sad

    And pathetic

    Take the L loser

    did you win something?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003
    hardhat said:

    This thread is still going? sheesh.

    participation is voluntary . . . for now
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,103 Founders Club
    hardhat said:

    This thread is still going? sheesh.

    Its so embarrassing for H that he is compelled to keep digging deeper

    Sad
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003

    hardhat said:

    This thread is still going? sheesh.

    Its so embarrassing for H that he is compelled to keep digging deeper

    Sad
    You still here? Crazy!
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 106,103 Founders Club
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003
    I'm declaring victory.

    And you can't stop me!
  • DooglesDoogles Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,599 Founders Club


    3-1 in bowl games with two top 25 finishes in the stretch that H said would have been a shoo-in to fire Don James.

    I'm sold. Dazzler and his ilk killed husky football.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042
    edited August 2022
    I didn’t know you ever followed the minutiae of Husky football and cared so much.

    It’s interesting that (a minimum of) 10,000 Husky fans traveled to Eugene during Don James’ down period in the 80’s.

    Oregon averaged approximately 30,000 fans per game during that era (except when the Dawgs came to town).

    If somebody was calling for Don James’ head during that “down period”, the fans certainly didn’t get the message.

    Amazing how many autos in the Portland metro area were decked out in purple and gold during this era.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Hell of a hill to die on.

    Imagine being pissed off about this.
  • Fire_Marshall_BillFire_Marshall_Bill Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,967 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.

    Beat Oregon,
    Nothing else matters.
    Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."

    And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
    I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.
    Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.

    Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
    8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.

    It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
    1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.

    1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.

    1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.

    1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.

    Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
    He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.
    That stretch from '85 to '88 was similar to Lambright's tenure. It might not get you fired, but it could. And again, if Gerberding had wanted James gone, he would have gotten minimal backlash after the '88 season. But he didn't want James gone; he didn't hate athletics; and he wasn't some radical lefty. The whole "upper campus was out to get Don James" nonsense has been made up out of whole cloth by a fan base that conflates its every frustration with its politics. It's especially silly because Don James wasn't fired. He could probably have coached at the UW as long as he wanted.

    And James shouldn't have made an appearance at a campaign rally for anyone. It was bad judgment. But it didn't have anything to do with anything in 1993.





    Gerberdung and Babs let James hang in the wind. He wouldn't back up a great football coach and a good guy. The stuff we got popped for is like a jaywalking ticket in the SEC and for Texass schools. Bad take Dazzler
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    Dazzler struggling to the bitter end is the tell.

    Majority of the UW fans on the bored would have cheered DJ's firing at the end of the '88 season. Some of them were calling for it.

    Just the facts, ma'am.
    That second consecutive loss to Oregon in 88' brought out the worst in Husky fans.

    Beat Oregon,
    Nothing else matters.
    Four mediocre seasons in a row. Audible whispers that "the game has passed him by."

    And nobody gave an extra shit about Oregon in 1988 except Oregon State.
    I thought that the Huskies went to the Rose Bowl for seasons 1989-1991 and when the story broke about the loan that the Huskies were 8-0 and ranked Number 1 in the country. Who was whispering that "the game had passed him by?" Seems like a pretty good run.
    Rose Bowls after the seasons of 1990, 1991 and 1992.

    Seasons of 1985-88 were awful. Painful.
    8-2-1 regular season in '86. They mauled THE Ohio State.

    It was a mediocre stretch. Bammer had those before they stopped investigating the SUCKEC elite about 12-15 years ago because Emmert's a corrupt cocksucker. You're reaching.
    1985 was awful and featured a home loss to an absolutely terrible Oregon State as well as three non-competitive losses.

    1986 was the best of the 4; still, we were non-competitive in a bowl loss.

    1987 was mediocre and we were non-competitive in three of our losses.

    1988, in retrospect, may have reflected a turning of the corner in the sense of being competitive in all games, but snapped our consecutive bowl streak and seemed like a dud at the time.

    Coaches get fired at big-time programs for stretches like this. The drop from 1984 was precipitous.
    He proved himself from '77 to '84 or whatever the first good stretch was, then again in the early 90s. The only guy to approach him was Peterson, who never really won the big one and lost in big bowl games. At least you're not a doog, but that part of the 80s was down time, it wasn't toilet time.
    That stretch from '85 to '88 was similar to Lambright's tenure. It might not get you fired, but it could. And again, if Gerberding had wanted James gone, he would have gotten minimal backlash after the '88 season. But he didn't want James gone; he didn't hate athletics; and he wasn't some radical lefty. The whole "upper campus was out to get Don James" nonsense has been made up out of whole cloth by a fan base that conflates its every frustration with its politics. It's especially silly because Don James wasn't fired. He could probably have coached at the UW as long as he wanted.

    And James shouldn't have made an appearance at a campaign rally for anyone. It was bad judgment. But it didn't have anything to do with anything in 1993.





    Gerberdung and Babs let James hang in the wind. He wouldn't back up a great football coach and a good guy. The stuff we got popped for is like a jaywalking ticket in the SEC and for Texass schools. Bad take Dazzler
    Petty and envious, the Pac-9 was going to fuck us--and ended up fucking itself in the process. Bill and Babs simply were left with bad alternatives. But it takes tv money to fund an athletic department, so they chose their sentence accordingly.

    James had a choice too--whether to coach through a two-year bowl ban or not. I don't begrudge him saying it wasn't in him, but he made the choice. Sad situation. But you should stop letting the conference off the hook.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,824 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    HHusky said:

    Dr. William Gerberding (no one ever called him “Bill”), President, University of Washington, held an animus toward major college sports, believing their popularity was a convolution of priorities, and was further rankled by the esteem with which Washington Head Coach Don James was held on campus (he was just a football coach, after all).

    As it was explained to me, Gerberding’s politics were a little to the left of Barney Frank while James’ convictions, of course, were not. This further aggravated Gerberding as evidenced by Gerberding’s reaction when President George H. W. Bush, while in Seattle, invited James to join him (the two had met when the national champion Huskies visited Washington D.C.). Gerberding had not been similarly invited – apparently in Gerberding’s mind, a slight. Gerberding believed Bush invited James because James was a Republican, perhaps active in the party, and Gerberding read James the riot act for mixing politics with football.

    James, who served in the army and has great affection for his country, reminded Gerberding that Bush was the President of the United States and, regardless of party, when the President of the United States invites you to dinner, you go. It’s a great honor. If the president was Lyndon Johnson, James would go. Jimmy Carter. But it didn’t explain why Gerberding wasn’t invited. Although, considering Gerberding’s political convictions, he probably would have declined the invitation had one been extended, Gerberding was not mollified.

    This is unmitigated horseshit.

    meltdown

    Like anyone is going to take your word for it Sally
    As usual, the dazzler's story makes no sense. On the other hand, having actually gone to a large state university, the left hated Nixon and they hated Reagan even more than the Bush's did. You can feel the Reagan hatred from the dazzler, someone he claims he voted for. Like the decline of America, the decline of Washington football was an administrative choice.
    My hearsay is vastly superior to Derek's. It didn't come from an agenda or desire for a "hot take". It came from a Reagan and Bush voter, in fact. It spans several UW Presidents and James's entire tenure at UW.

    Bill Gerberding was a left winger? Sure. And Sled says I'm a Communist.
    Your hearsay

    Our articles and sourced information including Don F James himself

    Fuck off
    Don James said he had to resign in August, 1993 because he gave Reagan a football in 1984?

    I think only Derek is saying that.



    Only a dipshit like you would play that game.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,003
    Doogles said:



    3-1 in bowl games with two top 25 finishes in the stretch that H said would have been a shoo-in to fire Don James.

    I'm sold. Dazzler and his ilk killed husky football.

    1989 was actually the year after 1988. (Glad I could help.)

    Can't go 3-1 in bowls when you only played three bowls after the four seasons in question. (Ditto)

    We did go 2 - 1 in bowls during the stretch I mentioned. (Take that, Tulane!)






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