China Would Lose a War with the USA

DerekJohnson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbWTuDp4Xs0

WestlinnDuck

One nuclear EMP burst over the US and its over. No one wins, couple of hundred million dead Americans within a year.

hardhat

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

WestlinnDuck

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

Bob_C

I think it's more accurate to say they couldn't win an all out war. Neither could the US frankly.

Sledog

CCP was involved in the election theft. They own a software firm here that does vote counting. Hard to believe I know. IF true it's an act of war. They have so much dirt on SloJoe (we know it's not Joe but Soros et al WEF) he's going to pay them not punish them. He was their choice and he's selling us to them.

hardhat

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

WestlinnDuck

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

hardhat

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

Serious, yes. All I mean is, we were willing to send billions of dollars to Ukraine, we certainly do send money to Taiwan. But Taiwan is fucked without our aircraft carriers.
As far as dead Americans, you have a point and I'm not a chickenshit hawk. There's a cost to weigh and with all the lives lost on previous shit wars, I'm not sure. I simply want the president of the USA to just say we support Taiwan. I didn't say I want to go to war.

WestlinnDuck

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

Serious, yes. All I mean is, we were willing to send billions of dollars to Ukraine, we certainly do send money to Taiwan. But Taiwan is fucked without our aircraft carriers.
As far as dead Americans, you have a point and I'm not a chickenshit hawk. There's a cost to weigh and with all the lives lost on previous shit wars, I'm not sure. I simply want the president of the USA to just say we support Taiwan. I didn't say I want to go to war.

I'm tired of virtue signaling. China is a threat. Having some sunk aircraft carriers doesn't accomplish a thing. Turning our economy over to the chicoms is a threat and we have done that. Having the US as the world's energy superpower and shipping LNG to China helps us and makes them dependent on us. Having us independent on drugs and semiconductor chips is good for us.

hardhat

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

Serious, yes. All I mean is, we were willing to send billions of dollars to Ukraine, we certainly do send money to Taiwan. But Taiwan is fucked without our aircraft carriers.
As far as dead Americans, you have a point and I'm not a chickenshit hawk. There's a cost to weigh and with all the lives lost on previous shit wars, I'm not sure. I simply want the president of the USA to just say we support Taiwan. I didn't say I want to go to war.

I'm tired of virtue signaling. China is a threat. Having some sunk aircraft carriers doesn't accomplish a thing. Turning our economy over to the chicoms is a threat and we have done that. Having the US as the world's energy superpower and shipping LNG to China helps us and makes them dependent on us. Having us independent on drugs and semiconductor chips is good for us.

I support those policies. We're also shipping them our coal while forcing US companies and cities to 'go green'. There's virtue signaling and there's being true to your word and implementing multiple policies. China is stirring up shit with nearly every country on its border besides Russia. I'd like to see us continue to isolate them and hold them accountable.

WestlinnDuck

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

Serious, yes. All I mean is, we were willing to send billions of dollars to Ukraine, we certainly do send money to Taiwan. But Taiwan is fucked without our aircraft carriers.
As far as dead Americans, you have a point and I'm not a chickenshit hawk. There's a cost to weigh and with all the lives lost on previous shit wars, I'm not sure. I simply want the president of the USA to just say we support Taiwan. I didn't say I want to go to war.

I'm tired of virtue signaling. China is a threat. Having some sunk aircraft carriers doesn't accomplish a thing. Turning our economy over to the chicoms is a threat and we have done that. Having the US as the world's energy superpower and shipping LNG to China helps us and makes them dependent on us. Having us independent on drugs and semiconductor chips is good for us.

I support those policies. We're also shipping them our coal while forcing US companies and cities to 'go green'. There's virtue signaling and there's being true to your word and implementing multiple policies. China is stirring up shit with nearly every country on its border besides Russia. I'd like to see us continue to isolate them and hold them accountable.

Going green is virtue signaling. Shipping LNG to China is cleaner and half the CO2. Banning fracking on federal lands is virtue signaling. Trouble is that "isolating" can't be done overnight. It is a process that Trump started and then the dems and RINOs started to reverse.

hardhat

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

WestlinnDuck said:

hardhat said:

Maybe. But I'm pretty sure they know we'll do nothing if they invade Taiwan.

Trump started taking on the chicoms with the tariffs and the dems and RINOs screamed bloody murder. Then the "Let's Increase Inflation Act" shoves hundreds of billions of dollars toward the chicoms and put 87,000 new IRS agents to "help" US small businesses competing against chicom imports. We need to be doing something now, but we supposedly "elected" a bought and paid for chicom shill.

I know, but surprisingly, Trump also didn't care about Taiwan specifically. I am happy to dig up the exact quote, I believe it was reported by Josh Rogin. Essentially he didn't give a fuck if China invaded Taiwan either. I'm glad he talked about the trade tariffs, but it would be nice to have a president that just said screw this ambiguity, we support Taiwan because it's a democracy.

Serious? We do support Taiwan, but how many dead Americans are you willing to sacrifice in a shooting war. Just one example, no antibiotics for a year = how many dead Americans. Then do just about every other drug, plus no chips = no manufacturing.

Serious, yes. All I mean is, we were willing to send billions of dollars to Ukraine, we certainly do send money to Taiwan. But Taiwan is fucked without our aircraft carriers.
As far as dead Americans, you have a point and I'm not a chickenshit hawk. There's a cost to weigh and with all the lives lost on previous shit wars, I'm not sure. I simply want the president of the USA to just say we support Taiwan. I didn't say I want to go to war.

I'm tired of virtue signaling. China is a threat. Having some sunk aircraft carriers doesn't accomplish a thing. Turning our economy over to the chicoms is a threat and we have done that. Having the US as the world's energy superpower and shipping LNG to China helps us and makes them dependent on us. Having us independent on drugs and semiconductor chips is good for us.

I support those policies. We're also shipping them our coal while forcing US companies and cities to 'go green'. There's virtue signaling and there's being true to your word and implementing multiple policies. China is stirring up shit with nearly every country on its border besides Russia. I'd like to see us continue to isolate them and hold them accountable.

Going green is virtue signaling. Shipping LNG to China is cleaner and half the CO2. Banning fracking on federal lands is virtue signaling. Trouble is that "isolating" can't be done overnight. It is a process that Trump started and then the dems and RINOs started to reverse.

Awww, @MelloDawg is downvoting but doesn't even know why!

Goduckies

Bob_C said:

I think it's more accurate to say they couldn't win an all out war. Neither could the US frankly.

Nobody wins in an all out war, ae all fuked

UW_Doog_Bot

China is going to collapse within the decade or become North Korea two starvation bugaloo. Book it.

I'm the CCP superiority guy. Change my mind.

pawz

UW_Doog_Bot said:

China is going to collapse within the decade or become North Korea two starvation bugaloo. Book it.

I'm the CCP superiority guy. Change my mind.

Tick tick tick.... never worked out well for the party patiently waiting

You're operating on a 10 yr horizon and there are some who think push comes to shove in a matter of weeks.

UW_Doog_Bot

pawz said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

China is going to collapse within the decade or become North Korea two starvation bugaloo. Book it.

I'm the CCP superiority guy. Change my mind.

Tick tick tick.... never worked out well for the party patiently waiting

You're operating on a 10 yr horizon and there are some who think push comes to shove in a matter of weeks.

It won't. Party Congress is this year. Xi already has too much on the line.