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Biden Polls in Free Fall

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  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    81M votes.

    Sure.

    Yep.

    Totally believable.

    A mere 26 Million more votes were cast than in 2016.

    That's how compelling the basement dweller was as a candidate.

    Right.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    How much of that tendency stems from poverty and corruption?

    Most of it, I think. I don't think it's innate.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,991 Standard Supporter

    RoadTrip said:

    Swaye said:

    The entire Democratic party is done if Hispanics bolt right. This is glorious. Hope getting rid of Trump was worth it. Likely to give the GOP power for a decade. Checkmate morons.

    I wish you were right but 1. The American public is dumber than a box of rocks 2. The GOP always fucks everything up because they so badly want to be loved and invited to the party
    The dems already have opened up fall camp and working on the whole playbook. Leaving unguarded thumb drives behind is just one of those internal controls that all MBA students learn about. Just ask the dazzler how important internal controls are. He yaps about them all the time.



    Mello approves of the cheating. Mello participated. Mello's a fag.
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,287 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:

    RoadTrip said:

    Swaye said:

    The entire Democratic party is done if Hispanics bolt right. This is glorious. Hope getting rid of Trump was worth it. Likely to give the GOP power for a decade. Checkmate morons.

    I wish you were right but 1. The American public is dumber than a box of rocks 2. The GOP always fucks everything up because they so badly want to be loved and invited to the party
    The dems already have opened up fall camp and working on the whole playbook. Leaving unguarded thumb drives behind is just one of those internal controls that all MBA students learn about. Just ask the dazzler how important internal controls are. He yaps about them all the time.



    Mello approves of the cheating. Mello participated. Mello's a fag.

    All three stand on their own merit.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,861 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    Hmmmmmm

    1st generation definitely socially conservative.

    2nd generation less so. Though I will say, lots of my friends are in the same camp as me where we tend towards social libertarianism rather than social progressivism.

    At a funeral a few weeks ago and the divide was stark. There's the one female cousin and the couple of wives who have embraced the LatinX SJW narrative.

    Then there's all the guys who are now having families and several who quietly admitted to voting for Trump. We talked about the insanity of schools, how the LGBTQIA2+ movement has jumped the shark, etc. And laughed at the women(quietly behind their backs bc Latinas are spicy tacos and will make a seen, even at a funeral)

    I think Hispanics don't have a tendency towards communism but culturally it's very patriarchal and that translates to politics sometimes. They relate to a strong man of the people who will help take care of them Como Padre y Dios. That's why Trump I think won so many over. He's here to fight for them and they know it and can relate to it. It's more populism than anything else.

    *shrug just my anecdotal experience and thoughts. Many tacos vote for the dems bc that's the legacy of unions and organizing from the 60's. The same way Trump was breaking traditional strangleholds on unions is part of why Hispanics are questioning their traditional voting.

    That's also part of why I have my doubts about DeSantis, will he have that type of ability to attract people regardless of color or traditional voting block? My wife's Puerto Rican family(not by blood) love Papi Santis but the blacks don't seem to so who knows.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,292

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    Hmmmmmm

    1st generation definitely socially conservative.

    2nd generation less so. Though I will say, lots of my friends are in the same camp as me where we tend towards social libertarianism rather than social progressivism.

    At a funeral a few weeks ago and the divide was stark. There's the one female cousin and the couple of wives who have embraced the LatinX SJW narrative.

    Then there's all the guys who are now having families and several who quietly admitted to voting for Trump. We talked about the insanity of schools, how the LGBTQIA2+ movement has jumped the shark, etc. And laughed at the women(quietly behind their backs bc Latinas are spicy tacos and will make a seen, even at a funeral)

    I think Hispanics don't have a tendency towards communism but culturally it's very patriarchal and that translates to politics sometimes. They relate to a strong man of the people who will help take care of them Como Padre y Dios. That's why Trump I think won so many over. He's here to fight for them and they know it and can relate to it. It's more populism than anything else.

    *shrug just my anecdotal experience and thoughts. Many tacos vote for the dems bc that's the legacy of unions and organizing from the 60's. The same way Trump was breaking traditional strangleholds on unions is part of why Hispanics are questioning their traditional voting.

    That's also part of why I have my doubts about DeSantis, will he have that type of ability to attract people regardless of color or traditional voting block? My wife's Puerto Rican family(not by blood) love Papi Santis but the blacks don't seem to so who knows.
    I've heard and read the same about Germans. You know, where the guys who cooked up the idea of communism are from. Maybe OBK was right. The Hispanos & the Germans lean naturally toward totalitarianism. I guess I should apologize.

    That's why blue collar white people used to vote for them too. They woke up. Lolz.

    DeSantis just doesn't have Don's charisma. For a decent % of the people out there, that amounts to Trump's bombast and his "willing to say anything to anyone anywhere" shock & awe. Americans like that sort of thing. Or a lot of them do. DeSantis is subdued by comparison. I would guess DeSantis is a lot smarter and has other qualities over Don, but he doesn't have Trump's star power. Don't get me wrong. He's no Ted Cruz, who people naturally dislike for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, even though I share the same instincts about him.

    Anyway,

  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,292

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    How much of that tendency stems from poverty and corruption?

    Most of it, I think. I don't think it's innate.
    Probably 100% of it. I'm sure there are various cultural traits out there that favor one system over another, all else being equal. I just always thought it was a weird assumption that obk made about Latin Americans.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,405 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    Hmmmmmm

    1st generation definitely socially conservative.

    2nd generation less so. Though I will say, lots of my friends are in the same camp as me where we tend towards social libertarianism rather than social progressivism.

    At a funeral a few weeks ago and the divide was stark. There's the one female cousin and the couple of wives who have embraced the LatinX SJW narrative.

    Then there's all the guys who are now having families and several who quietly admitted to voting for Trump. We talked about the insanity of schools, how the LGBTQIA2+ movement has jumped the shark, etc. And laughed at the women(quietly behind their backs bc Latinas are spicy tacos and will make a seen, even at a funeral)

    I think Hispanics don't have a tendency towards communism but culturally it's very patriarchal and that translates to politics sometimes. They relate to a strong man of the people who will help take care of them Como Padre y Dios. That's why Trump I think won so many over. He's here to fight for them and they know it and can relate to it. It's more populism than anything else.

    *shrug just my anecdotal experience and thoughts. Many tacos vote for the dems bc that's the legacy of unions and organizing from the 60's. The same way Trump was breaking traditional strangleholds on unions is part of why Hispanics are questioning their traditional voting.

    That's also part of why I have my doubts about DeSantis, will he have that type of ability to attract people regardless of color or traditional voting block? My wife's Puerto Rican family(not by blood) love Papi Santis but the blacks don't seem to so who knows.
    I've heard and read the same about Germans. You know, where the guys who cooked up the idea of communism are from. Maybe OBK was right. The Hispanos & the Germans lean naturally toward totalitarianism. I guess I should apologize.

    That's why blue collar white people used to vote for them too. They woke up. Lolz.

    DeSantis just doesn't have Don's charisma. For a decent % of the people out there, that amounts to Trump's bombast and his "willing to say anything to anyone anywhere" shock & awe. Americans like that sort of thing. Or a lot of them do. DeSantis is subdued by comparison. I would guess DeSantis is a lot smarter and has other qualities over Don, but he doesn't have Trump's star power. Don't get me wrong. He's no Ted Cruz, who people naturally dislike for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, even though I share the same instincts about him.

    Anyway,

    I'd blame illiteracy and not being educated for the Latin love of dictators. Howver, the Germans were probably the best educated people on the planet as long as economics weren't involved. They loved themselves some authoritarians. The truth is that the English were different from the rest of the planet and historically sought out limited government and that came to the ultimate fruition with the US until big government arrived in the 1960s with our "educated" elites deciding that their way was better. Just win the war on poverty by creating the great welfare state. Pure genius.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,861 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    Hmmmmmm

    1st generation definitely socially conservative.

    2nd generation less so. Though I will say, lots of my friends are in the same camp as me where we tend towards social libertarianism rather than social progressivism.

    At a funeral a few weeks ago and the divide was stark. There's the one female cousin and the couple of wives who have embraced the LatinX SJW narrative.

    Then there's all the guys who are now having families and several who quietly admitted to voting for Trump. We talked about the insanity of schools, how the LGBTQIA2+ movement has jumped the shark, etc. And laughed at the women(quietly behind their backs bc Latinas are spicy tacos and will make a seen, even at a funeral)

    I think Hispanics don't have a tendency towards communism but culturally it's very patriarchal and that translates to politics sometimes. They relate to a strong man of the people who will help take care of them Como Padre y Dios. That's why Trump I think won so many over. He's here to fight for them and they know it and can relate to it. It's more populism than anything else.

    *shrug just my anecdotal experience and thoughts. Many tacos vote for the dems bc that's the legacy of unions and organizing from the 60's. The same way Trump was breaking traditional strangleholds on unions is part of why Hispanics are questioning their traditional voting.

    That's also part of why I have my doubts about DeSantis, will he have that type of ability to attract people regardless of color or traditional voting block? My wife's Puerto Rican family(not by blood) love Papi Santis but the blacks don't seem to so who knows.
    I've heard and read the same about Germans. You know, where the guys who cooked up the idea of communism are from. Maybe OBK was right. The Hispanos & the Germans lean naturally toward totalitarianism. I guess I should apologize.

    That's why blue collar white people used to vote for them too. They woke up. Lolz.

    DeSantis just doesn't have Don's charisma. For a decent % of the people out there, that amounts to Trump's bombast and his "willing to say anything to anyone anywhere" shock & awe. Americans like that sort of thing. Or a lot of them do. DeSantis is subdued by comparison. I would guess DeSantis is a lot smarter and has other qualities over Don, but he doesn't have Trump's star power. Don't get me wrong. He's no Ted Cruz, who people naturally dislike for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, even though I share the same instincts about him.

    Anyway,

    The Germans love rules and order. Worked with quite a few of them and it's almost always the same. Hispanics are not in that camp at all.

    Anyways, Ted has a punch able face. It's gotten better since he grew the beard at least. I think he also learned a lot from Trump and has realized there's hay to be made by positioning himself against the swamp. He's also learned a more direct and combative style where as he had that superior passive style like Trudeau before. That shit doesn't fly on the right as well. I'd rather have Trump just call you an asshole no matter how it plays to "decency".

    That's the thing, we are fighting corrupt fascists like little Adolph. I don't want someone who plays nice with them.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    How much of that tendency stems from poverty and corruption?

    Most of it, I think. I don't think it's innate.
    Probably 100% of it. I'm sure there are various cultural traits out there that favor one system over another, all else being equal. I just always thought it was a weird assumption that obk made about Latin Americans.
    Nothing promises more than Socialism or Communism. Maybe people get sucked in.

    And nothing fails to deliver on those promises by a wider margin. So the able ones migrate El Norte by the millions.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,972 Standard Supporter
    hardhat said:
    I feel like I once heard someone say, "It's the Economy, Stupid."

    Gee whiz, now who might that have been?
  • thechatchthechatch Member Posts: 6,298
    My kids are of German, Mexican, Scottish, English, Native American, and French descent.

    I doubt either of them will really give a shit about any of that whatsoever. That said, their great grandparents and a bunch of great aunts and uncles still live in Mexico City and Guadalajara so maybe there will be some cultural influence there, as that is gently emphasized on my wife’s side of the family.

    They’ll figure out pretty soon that the political party that calls them little LatinX tacos and wants to flood the country with waves of people from everywhere in Central America probably doesn’t have their true best interests at heart, no matter what AOC says on her Instagram page. Remember the caravans coming from El Salvador and Nicaragua aren’t exactly the greatest thing for Mexico either.

    If we secure our southern border it makes it easier for them to secure theirs. I’m the meantime, this is a votes grab and a building human rights catastrophe in places like California, Texas and Arizona.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    thechatch said:

    19% among Hispanic voters is extraordinary. Biden always, always finds a way to fuck it up.

    Americans of Latin American descent hate illegal immigration and the leftist assault on the family and religion. Simple fact.
    This, despite their innate tendency towards communism, which of course seeks to tear asunder family and all other human relations to anything but the state.

    #reasonableamounts
    Nothing that helicopter rides can't fix
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    hardhat said:
    You should apologize Van. You helped them to hate Trump. Fuck off with your tears.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,405 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    How much of that tendency stems from poverty and corruption?

    Most of it, I think. I don't think it's innate.
    Probably 100% of it. I'm sure there are various cultural traits out there that favor one system over another, all else being equal. I just always thought it was a weird assumption that obk made about Latin Americans.
    Nothing promises more than Socialism or Communism. Maybe people get sucked in.

    And nothing fails to deliver on those promises by a wider margin. So the able ones migrate El Norte by the millions.
    They get sucked in because our public school system only indoctrinates and doesn't require any functional understanding of human history and economics let alone any science and math. Toss in the main stream culture which abhors logic and common sense and rewards feelz and virtue signaling. Middle schoolers weren't independently walking out of class in support of St. George Floyd because they actually knew what happened. He was just targeted and killed for being black, although there was no evidence that any racial bias got him killed. Can you imagine a 7th grade white male teacher asking the class if blacks should have a special right to resist arrest? Geezus the kick back would be unbelievable.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,981

    Swaye said:

    Another great thing about the migration of Hispanics rightward will be watching the Dems want to build a wall and get behind border security in 10 years. If they are not introducing a reliable voting block they will want border security as much as conservatives do. We might actually get a functioning and secure border finally.

    I think the average Hispano is at least socially conservative. It's not so much a political choice as a byproduct of culture. Some Pac 10 Mexicans tend to get confused by the white devil's prodding toward liberal views, but the Mexicans in Texas and the southwest and southeast are not confused. @UW_Doog_Bot can elucidate more on this for us.

    Despite this, they all have a tendency toward communism. Or so I'm told. @oregonblitzkrieg
    Hmmmmmm

    1st generation definitely socially conservative.

    2nd generation less so. Though I will say, lots of my friends are in the same camp as me where we tend towards social libertarianism rather than social progressivism.

    At a funeral a few weeks ago and the divide was stark. There's the one female cousin and the couple of wives who have embraced the LatinX SJW narrative.

    Then there's all the guys who are now having families and several who quietly admitted to voting for Trump. We talked about the insanity of schools, how the LGBTQIA2+ movement has jumped the shark, etc. And laughed at the women(quietly behind their backs bc Latinas are spicy tacos and will make a seen, even at a funeral)

    I think Hispanics don't have a tendency towards communism but culturally it's very patriarchal and that translates to politics sometimes. They relate to a strong man of the people who will help take care of them Como Padre y Dios. That's why Trump I think won so many over. He's here to fight for them and they know it and can relate to it. It's more populism than anything else.

    *shrug just my anecdotal experience and thoughts. Many tacos vote for the dems bc that's the legacy of unions and organizing from the 60's. The same way Trump was breaking traditional strangleholds on unions is part of why Hispanics are questioning their traditional voting.

    That's also part of why I have my doubts about DeSantis, will he have that type of ability to attract people regardless of color or traditional voting block? My wife's Puerto Rican family(not by blood) love Papi Santis but the blacks don't seem to so who knows.
    I've heard and read the same about Germans. You know, where the guys who cooked up the idea of communism are from. Maybe OBK was right. The Hispanos & the Germans lean naturally toward totalitarianism. I guess I should apologize.

    That's why blue collar white people used to vote for them too. They woke up. Lolz.

    DeSantis just doesn't have Don's charisma. For a decent % of the people out there, that amounts to Trump's bombast and his "willing to say anything to anyone anywhere" shock & awe. Americans like that sort of thing. Or a lot of them do. DeSantis is subdued by comparison. I would guess DeSantis is a lot smarter and has other qualities over Don, but he doesn't have Trump's star power. Don't get me wrong. He's no Ted Cruz, who people naturally dislike for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, even though I share the same instincts about him.

    Anyway,

    Nothing's changed with me
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