Poker Guysm - Greatest Fold of All-Tim ?

pawz

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

YellowSnow

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

chuck

Good fold. Not sure I would've read pocket kings there but I didn't see the pre flop betting. I probably would've lost with the queens.

I won a small tournament once with a very similar board except I had pocket 2s and was pretty damn sure that four 2s was good. That was good for a little over $200 off a $20 buy in and $10 rebuy, the largest amount I've ever profited in a poker game.

pawz

chuck said:

Good fold. Not sure I would've read pocket kings there but I didn't see the pre flop betting. I probably would've lost with the queens.

I won a small tournament once with a very similar board except I had pocket 2s and was pretty damn sure that four 2s was good. That was good for a little over $200 off a $20 buy in and $10 rebuy, the largest amount I've ever profited in a poker game.

It was just Raise-Call preflop. No 3 or 4-betting.

He must have had SOME sort of read - in terms of physical/live tells - to find a fold. And w $2.1M in cashes coming into the ME, I'm guessing he's worked on that skill set.

pawz

YellowSnow said:

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

What do you expect them to look like?

YellowSnow

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

What do you expect them to look like?

pawz

YellowSnow said:

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

What do you expect them to look like?

Yore white supremacy has no place in teh pokerz communities.

Sincerely, @TheKobeStopper

1to392831weretaken

I thought the greatest fold of all Tim was the Ducks blowing a 31 point halftime lead to the Fightin' Tequillas.

Right up until Warshington folded even harder in losing to Montana.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

What do you expect them to look like?

pawz

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

Why do the Poker guysm look so weird these days?

What do you expect them to look like?

Pei de man heez money.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

I’ve played in 1 actual poker tournament in my life in Vegas on the day I was flying back to Seattle. 60 people and I made the final table of 10. Mrs Nacho comes over and whispers to me we have 30 minutes to leave for the airport and I should make a call on whether we stay an extra night.

I start getting aggressive and win a good size hand so I tried to keep it up and was knocked right the fuck outta the tournament.

At least we made our flight on time.

Swaye

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

I’ve played in 1 actual poker tournament in my life in Vegas on the day I was flying back to Seattle. 60 people and I made the final table of 10. Mrs Nacho comes over and whispers to me we have 30 minutes to leave for the airport and I should make a call on whether we stay an extra night.

I start getting aggressive and win a good size hand so I tried to keep it up and was knocked right the fuck outta the tournament.

At least we made our flight on time.

You should also tell them that 10th place was a fondue pot. 300 pounds later here we are.

Tequilla

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

pawz

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

Tequilla

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

YellowSnow

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

I don’t understand what is happening.

chuck

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

I don’t understand what is happening.

You have to watch it. Just reading what these guys posted, without watching the hand, makes it hard to visualize what they're talking about. Maybe not to a regular player, but to most of us.

pawz

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

I don’t understand what is happening.

We?re having a home gayme Saturday. You should come play cards.

pawz

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

The part being missed here is if you DON'T call with Qx/2x enough, you are giving up piles of equity.

There are definitely enough AA, AJ, AT, JT combos to justify a call w a naked 2.

This is the part equity exposure vs game theory that make it an insanely difficult fold.




*with regards to OP, 22 is a 7th, winning hand-combo available

Fenderbender123

I don't know all the considerations. But if it's my hand, I'm telling myself that I have a full house with queens and twos, but with the king out there and two queens, there are solid possibilities that somebody has a better full house, or even a push. With that said, i probably wouldn't have folded.

Tequilla

pawz said:

YellowSnow said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

Tequilla said:

pawz said:

14 players left in this year's WSOP Main Event - $10M up top.

AQ finds a CORRECT fold on a KQ2Q2 board. Just 6 hand combinations beat him (3 of KK, and 3 of KQ), but still ....


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/07/wsop-main-event-great-fold-41660.htm

http://twitter.com/PokerGO/status/1547542650156457988

What’s the golden fucking rule? Leave yourself an out

Assuming the video was straight forward on it … the snap all-in probably gives enough of a reason to exercise caution

The KK is obviously the concern but losing to KQ also enters into the play despite all the blockers to it … I wouldn’t even consider pocket ducks

It’s obviously a bit polarized but the snap call and snap all in after hitting trips just smells way too fishy

Let's say the KK player has a naked Q instead. How is his line any different on the turn and river? Are we? expecting him to check-back the river?

IMO yes it’s a different line but you and I play probably a little different in those spots

Let’s say I’m pushing with the naked Q I’m getting 3 outcomes

1) Opponent folds Kx or whatever bluff they were running … you’re winning a showdown there anyway with a call and those hands are never calling away their stacks

2) You’re running into KK, 22, or KQ and you’re getting snap called and heading to the payout window … if you call your stack away and run into the ultimate cooler then so what

3) The interesting scenario here with the over the top with a chopped Q hand is that if that’s your read then you’re calling off to chop

My big consideration at that point is do I have enough chips behind with a fold to rebuild and move forward … if I do I tip my cap if you pushed me off my hand. Just don’t see the risk/reward in my favor to call it off there

I don’t understand what is happening.

We?re having a home gayme Saturday. You should come play cards.

I take it as a complement that you don’t want me near that game