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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,112 Founders Club
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    Swaye said:

    I tend to think Moore's Law will ensure that EVs will eventually surpass, or at least gain parity with ICE vehicles. And I'm the guy who used to make fun of the Prius on here 5-10 years ago constantly (and still loves driving old smog spitting 8 mpg Jeeps). I've evolved on EV. Hell I want a Taycan in a few years. I think they are still a bit off the "parity" equation but gaining ground every day - now, the sunk environmental costs of the battery production will perhaps always stay a problem, but I don't know enough about the future of clean mining tech to opine one way or the other.

    All that said, it seems to be the use case for hauling large loads behind a truck is one that current gen EVs are not well suited for at all. My guess is it will be quite a long time before they are. Commuter car though? Sure.gif. I read somewhere that cost parity will be achieved between EVs and ICE by like 2027. Might be fake news but does not seem unreasonable.

    You know another thing that peaks my interest is the eFuel concept Porsche is working on - carbon neutral "gas." Looks promising, but nobody is under any illusions that there is no plan to make it at scale for decades, if ever.

    Anyway, I am all for the EV revolution when it makes sense - I just think we need to tackle a few elephants first - bolster the grid (this is mega and is really a complete show stopper for any large scale transition to EVs right now), improve battery range, lower the cost of ownership, and make battery tech less "dirty" to build. I also think ICE should not be made to be "the enemy" during this long transition. Keep making ICE as efficient as possible while we transition slowly and methodically to EV as the tech improves. My 2 coppers that nobody cares about.

    The assumption behind this, and much "renewable" energy is that the tech will take an exponential path and just needs to "get off the ground".

    The reality is that much of the low hanging fruit has been handled and we are watching a logarithmic function. It's going to take more and more investment to get smaller and smaller gains.

    If it was otherwise the free market would have already propelled this stuff into the atmosphere.

    Savvy government officials know this and know they can continue to expand budgets, power, and influence by continuing to push the "revolution".
    My brother

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