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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,289
    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    And you shouldn't.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,620 Founders Club
    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,289

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
    Hasn't helped my Cuog!
  • TheHB
    TheHB Member Posts: 6,766
    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    I think it really comes down to Nike. Without Nike, Oregon wouldn't care.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,620 Founders Club

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
    Hasn't helped my Cuog!
    Helped Don James

    Beat USC and Ucla and your a power

    So Moos said beat UW and we're on our way
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,758 Standard Supporter

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
    Hasn't helped my Cuog!
    The Mike Leach era was arguably the most sustained success Coug has ever seen.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,232

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
    Hasn't helped my Cuog!
    The Mike Leach era was arguably the most sustained success Coug has ever seen.
    I’d go with price/early doba. Time for the d word?
  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,945
    ntxduck said:

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    The Pac 10/12 had a lot to do with it
    Hasn't helped my Cuog!
    The Mike Leach era was arguably the most sustained success Coug has ever seen.
    I’d go with price/early doba. Time for the d word?
    No, Price could be considered a old douche but I don't think Doba would be.
  • whlinder
    whlinder Member Posts: 5,388
    TheHB said:

    whlinder said:

    TheHB said:

    TheHB said:

    The Oregon brand is simply Nike and unique uniforms that appeal to 12-year-olds. It's not about winning, tradition or anything the B1G has ever been about. The thinking that Oregon is some kind of awesome national brand is silly. When the day comes and Phil Knight has taken advantage of his last Asian sweatshop worker, the Oregon "program" will be an afterthought. If it isn't already.

    I don't think it's some kind of "awesome national brand," but it's more than your dismissive take on it. The BIG admitted Rutgers into their league in my lifetime, and other than Buck they've been a big boring collection of teams for as long as I can remember. So I'll take a hard pass at falling to my knees in awe of the Big 10.
    Great point. I’m not really kneeling before the B1G. But unlike others in this bastion of free thought, I’m not falling on my knees in awe of duck, either.
    The place I give duck respek is that they were utterly nothing and were able to make themselves into something relevant, with no built in advantages. That's basically impossible to do in college football. Schools fall down from their natural place in the pecking order when they don't care (Minnesota, Pitt, Syracuse, Colorado) but it's really hard to advance a program to the highest levels without any built in advantages (which schools like the Florida schools had). Oregon managed to do that. Without caring and without Phil, they'd be Texas Tech.
    I think it really comes down to Nike. Without Nike, Oregon wouldn't care.
    Perhaps my order was backwards.

    The only more impressive rise from shit in CFB is Kansas State, who went from worst program in power conference land to winning conferences and competing for Natties. KSU never had an uncle Phil but also never got as far as Oregon, and is now an average program in CFB.