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KaepskneeKaepsknee Member Posts: 14,750
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What are the best lump sum short(ish) term shelter and gain investments for late 2022 and beyond?

Looks like bonds are gaining some steam? I’d think Money Markets would follow??? Not really seeing precious metal. Blue chips are stagnant and still risky.

Crypto?

See my avatar.


Real Estate???

Commodities on the 3 month???

I’m lost. Please help.




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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,156
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    Gasoline


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    Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,859
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    I’m continuing to buy and lose money.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,951
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    @HHusky how is the buying the dip going for you???

    I'd stay away from commodities going into a recession, and bonds haven't turned the corner yet. China is printing money to prop things up...not a bad place to start...just hope they don't decide to invade Taiwan.

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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,751
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    Kaepsknee said:

    What are the best lump sum short(ish) term shelter and gain investments for late 2022 and beyond?

    Looks like bonds are gaining some steam? I’d think Money Markets would follow??? Not really seeing precious metal. Blue chips are stagnant and still risky.

    Crypto?

    See my avatar.


    Real Estate???

    Commodities on the 3 month???

    I’m lost. Please help.




    Historically real estate out-performs in a recession. The notable exception being 2008/9 when it was a real estate bubble that popped.

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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,639
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    Swaye said:

    I've reallocated my entire portfolio from watches to bullets, bourbon and cigars.

    I include some food plus silver and gold.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,178
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    pawz said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    What are the best lump sum short(ish) term shelter and gain investments for late 2022 and beyond?

    Looks like bonds are gaining some steam? I’d think Money Markets would follow??? Not really seeing precious metal. Blue chips are stagnant and still risky.

    Crypto?

    See my avatar.


    Real Estate???

    Commodities on the 3 month???

    I’m lost. Please help.




    Historically real estate out-performs in a recession. The notable exception being 2008/9 when it was a real estate bubble that popped.

    Hasn't the work from home issue hit commercial real estate pretty hard?
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,573
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    Investing is racist. Maybe pay some reparations first instead of upholding white supremacy bigot
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    WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 13,839
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    RoadTrip said:

    pawz said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    What are the best lump sum short(ish) term shelter and gain investments for late 2022 and beyond?

    Looks like bonds are gaining some steam? I’d think Money Markets would follow??? Not really seeing precious metal. Blue chips are stagnant and still risky.

    Crypto?

    See my avatar.


    Real Estate???

    Commodities on the 3 month???

    I’m lost. Please help.




    Historically real estate out-performs in a recession. The notable exception being 2008/9 when it was a real estate bubble that popped.

    Hasn't the work from home issue hit commercial real estate pretty hard?
    Commercial real estate is in the tank and with the huge decline of our major cities any rally is years away if ever. Retail is also a mess with online purchasing. The overall residential market is in bubble territory. As wealthy individuals flee blue states and cities, local markets like CDA should be okay, but can't continue to be white hot. Given a sane government, energy companies would be a good buy, but the dems are intent on bankrupting them in the long term.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,156
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,751
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    edited June 2022
    RoadTrip said:

    pawz said:

    Kaepsknee said:

    What are the best lump sum short(ish) term shelter and gain investments for late 2022 and beyond?

    Looks like bonds are gaining some steam? I’d think Money Markets would follow??? Not really seeing precious metal. Blue chips are stagnant and still risky.

    Crypto?

    See my avatar.


    Real Estate???

    Commodities on the 3 month???

    I’m lost. Please help.




    Historically real estate out-performs in a recession. The notable exception being 2008/9 when it was a real estate bubble that popped.

    Hasn't the work from home issue hit commercial real estate pretty hard?
    Yes. However that is already baked into the current price prior to the commencement of the current/immenent recession.

    Is residential facing a bubble? It's debatable. One can make the case rising interest rates will drive down pricing. An alternative case can also be made that in an inflationary environment smart money is in hard-assets. I choose to error on the side that everyone needs a place to live.


    If you believe, like I do, the probability amplitude includes a depression-level event, nothing may be safe.

    #NoCrystalBalls

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    CuntWaffleCuntWaffle Member Posts: 22,493
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    Sounds like you just want to go to the casino
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    pawzpawz Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,751
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    CuntWaffle said:

    Sounds like you just want to go to the casino

    Confirmed. It goes without being said.

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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,277
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    Not financial advice, but I'm spreading some fun money to some low float small caps that have high CTB, utilization, and zero option chains. These types of stocks are explosive and MMs have less liquidity without the option chain, so even moderate buying pressure can make these stocks run and run fast. These things can run 15%-20% daily in any direction. On most swings, I allow myself 5-10% downside potential before exiting, on these plays however, I'm willing to go to 40%, but to counter that, I also only put half the normal investment in, so my actual dollar loss is about the same.
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Bob_C said:

    I’m continuing to buy and lose money.

    I’m waiting for the bottom. Always the better play.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,951
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    greenblood said:

    Not financial advice, but I'm spreading some fun money to some low float small caps that have high CTB, utilization, and zero option chains. These types of stocks are explosive and MMs have less liquidity without the option chain, so even moderate buying pressure can make these stocks run and run fast. These things can run 15%-20% daily in any direction. On most swings, I allow myself 5-10% downside potential before exiting, on these plays however, I'm willing to go to 40%, but to counter that, I also only put half the normal investment in, so my actual dollar loss is about the same.


    I kid...I kid...
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    HoustonHusky said:

    greenblood said:

    Not financial advice, but I'm spreading some fun money to some low float small caps that have high CTB, utilization, and zero option chains. These types of stocks are explosive and MMs have less liquidity without the option chain, so even moderate buying pressure can make these stocks run and run fast. These things can run 15%-20% daily in any direction. On most swings, I allow myself 5-10% downside potential before exiting, on these plays however, I'm willing to go to 40%, but to counter that, I also only put half the normal investment in, so my actual dollar loss is about the same.


    I kid...I kid...
    You're not far off. The difference here being, if you play the right signals you can be more like the house, and have the odds slightly/moderately in your favor.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,472
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    I-bonds are around 10% but you're limited to $10k.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,573
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    I got a random 6k from the irs the other day. No idea what for? Maybe my 2019 refund I had to send in like 3 times? Odd.

    Put it in the vanguard. Whatever I don't dwell on it
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