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Welcome to the Hardcore Husky Forums. Folks who are well-known in Cyberland and not that dumb.

Leave it up to the police.

Geezus. Fire the whole department and hire out four or five Academi (formerly Blackwater) dudes.

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June 21, 2022
Police Response to Uvalde Shooter Was Even Worse Than Thought: Cops Had All the Guns and Bullet Proof Shields They Needed, Could Have Killed Shooter in "Three Minutes;"
Didn't Even Try Opening the Door, WHICH WAS UNLOCKED THE WHOLE TIME

When danger is moments away, the cops are sitting outside waiting for "additional resources" and for keys they don't need for 70 minutes.

They say the bulletproof shields came within 19 minutes of the killer's entry into the school, but the Texas police commander says, in the video below the fold, that the killer could have been taken out "in three minutes." He means three minutes after the killer entered the building. In other words: You don't have to wait for bulletproof shields when children are bleeding out and there's a single shooter and you have a lot of men and weapons and you're also wearing body armor. Go in and take him down.

But they had to wait for those keys. For that locked door.

Which... wasn't locked.

Ooops! Guess someone should have checked that lock. (It apparently only locks from the outside, which is something that can probably be determined by visual inspection, identifying the type of lock it is.)


Note that they've been pushing this claim that the door was locked, and they had to wait to have the keys brought to them, for two months now.

Only now is it revealed: Nope, not locked. They just never bothered checking it.

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BREAKING: Law enforcement confirms no one tried to open Uvalde classroom door, which they now know was never locked


Col. Steve McCraw (@TxDPS), the chief of the Texas Department of Public Safety, described the police response to last month's massacre at a Uvalde, Texas, elementary school as a "absurd failure," detailing how officers quickly entered the school and obtained protective shields...

...but still left defenseless children trapped inside with the gunman for more than an hour.

McCraw testified about the police response to the tragedy at a state Senate hearing.

Delays in responding by law enforcement have become the focus of federal, state, and local investigations.

"Obviously, not enough training was done in this situation, plain and simple. Because terrible decisions were made by the on-site commander," McCraw said of Pete Arredondo, the Uvalde school district police chief.

Eight minutes after the shooter entered the building, an officer reported that police had a "hooligan" crowbar that could be used to break down the classroom door, according to McCraw.

According to the witness, police brought the first ballistic shield into the building 19 minutes after the gunman entered.

Arredondo, according to McCraw, chose the lives of officers over the lives of children.

The public safety chief described to the committee a number of missed opportunities, communication breakdowns, and other errors, including:

-Arredondo was not carrying a radio.

-Only Border Patrol agents' radios worked inside the school; police and sheriff's radios did not.

-To coordinate their response, the police used incorrect diagrams of the school.

According to state police, the gunman entered the school through an exterior door propped open by a teacher, but McGraw stated that the door had been closed & could only be locked from the outside.

"There's no way for her to know the door is locked," McGraw said.

"He walked straight through."

Authorities have given contradictory and incorrect accounts of what occurred in the days and weeks following the shooting, sometimes withdrawing statements hours later.

But McCraw assured lawmakers: "Everything I've testified today is corroborated."
trublueHuskyJWGDS

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  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 3,573
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    Yeah sorry if you are a cop, you have to go into the school with a shield or not to save lives, it is what it is... if you don't want to do that and just want to bother people all day move on.
    BleachedAnusDawgHuskyJW
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 8,776
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    And man up at least and admit your moral failure. Don't lie about it and try to cover it up. One off duty border agent with a borrowed shot gun evaded the police blockade and did his duty. Hope life is hell for those cops.
    Goduckies said:

    Yeah sorry if you are a cop, you have to go into the school with a shield or not to save lives, it is what it is... if you don't want to do that and just want to bother people all day move on.

    SFGbobtrublueGoduckiesSwayeHuskyJWGDS
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,866
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    Why should they? They’ve been called murdering, low life, pieces of shit to be spit on, shot, defunded, ridiculed and screamed at for the last few years. They are probably to the “fuck off” point.
    GoduckiesTXDawg
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 8,776
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    Why should they? They’ve been called murdering, low life, pieces of shit to be spit on, shot, defunded, ridiculed and screamed at for the last few years. They are probably to the “fuck off” point.

    I agree that a lot are but I'm assuming its largely in the blue cities. Uvalde County voted 60% for Trump in 2020. Not a lot of BLM/antifa riots in Uvalde City, population 15,000. City cops have been fleeing to places like Uvalde. This wasn't like trying to arrest some escaping shop lifter or George Floyd. This was the life or death of little kids who had nothing to do with BLM and antifa. The Ferguson effect is real and we have seen it all over US cities, this feels really different.
    SFGbobtrublueGoduckiesDerekJohnsonGDS
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 8,234
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    edited June 21
    Reed and Malloy would have charged in.To Protect and Serve.
    Alexis
  • trubluetrublue Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,957
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    Mass shootings didn’t occur back when Reed and Malloy were on duty. Incomprehensible.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 3,573
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    Why should they? They’ve been called murdering, low life, pieces of shit to be spit on, shot, defunded, ridiculed and screamed at for the last few years. They are probably to the “fuck off” point.

    Simple kids are innocent
    MikeDamone
  • trubluetrublue Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,957
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    And man up at least and admit your moral failure. Don't lie about it and try to cover it up. One off duty border agent with a borrowed shot gun evaded the police blockade and did his duty. Hope life is hell for those cops.

    Goduckies said:

    Yeah sorry if you are a cop, you have to go into the school with a shield or not to save lives, it is what it is... if you don't want to do that and just want to bother people all day move on.

    Shameful day in U.S. law enforcement history . . . Government employees need to be held accountable when they they want to be the head honcho and make the big decisions.

    Many “leaders” are afraid to make the tough decisions in a crisis situation . . . Worry about the inevitable second-guessing and make the “safe” decision hoping everything will work out . . . Focused more on their “career” than the victims in a crisis.

    What was he waiting for? A SWAT team from the FBI or ATF to arrive?

    The on-site “Commander” should be fired, prosecuted and sued for all he’s worth. Whoever promoted him to that should be fired too.



    46XiJCABHuskyJWGoduckies
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 25,041
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    As I have said none of this is current training for LE. Advance, locate and eliminate. Simple shit. One does not wait for ANYTHING! It's part of what you swore to do.
    SwayeAlexistrublueUW_Doog_Bot
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 8,234
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    Sledog said:

    As I have said none of this is current training for LE. Advance, locate and eliminate. Simple shit. One does not wait for ANYTHING! It's part of what you swore to do.

    I’m weird but I too thought the only mission in a situation like this was to put threat down like you would a rabid animal.
    Swaye
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 25,041
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    Another fact on mass shooters is damn near every single one is on antidepressants. At some point many people taking this shit snap. We can not medicate ourselves out of crazy.
    46XiJCABBlu82Goduckies
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,891
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    Sledog said:

    As I have said none of this is current training for LE. Advance, locate and eliminate. Simple shit. One does not wait for ANYTHING! It's part of what you swore to do.

    I don't usually beat this drum but

    Different generation. For sure.

    Oh well, imagine these fags trying to confiscate American guns is the silver lining I suppose.
    Sledog
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 35,420
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    Sledog said:

    As I have said none of this is current training for LE. Advance, locate and eliminate. Simple shit. One does not wait for ANYTHING! It's part of what you swore to do.

    I don't usually beat this drum but

    Different generation. For sure.

    Oh well, imagine these fags trying to confiscate American guns is the silver lining I suppose.
    It took a battalion of ATF to smoke out Randy Weaver and Koresh

    There’s not a chance in hell the hired hands could possibly confiscate 340 million + firearms owned in this country.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 3,573
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    Sledog said:

    Another fact on mass shooters is damn near every single one is on antidepressants. At some point many people taking this shit snap. We can not medicate ourselves out of crazy.

    Thank you! And most probably played Call of duty or some other shooting game.
    MikeDamone
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