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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,693 Founders Club

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.
    Because it's already built in

    In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in

    East coast rail works

    West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY

  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.
    Because it's already built in

    In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in

    East coast rail works

    West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY

    Euro rail makes east coast rail look silly.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Joe Biden. Dazzler knows. That’s why he won’t talk about his ignorant vote.
  • trubluetrublue Member Posts: 3,042

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.

    For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build.
    Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2022
    trublue said:

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.

    For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build.
    Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.
    Or if you want to go someplace other than a crime ridden shithole area. Like near Sven’s place. It’s easy walking distance to his lower middle class domicile
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,713 Standard Supporter
    Euro rail seems to be a lot safer than US rail. Taking Tri-Met in Portland is like going to a third world. Look at how Giuliani cleaned up the NY transit system. Went from Bernie Goetz and Charles Bronson to safest large transit system in the US. Now its back to the Jungle.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNMg-dbQk0

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.
    Because it's already built in

    In America you have to plow through neighborhoods to put your fix rail 1820 tech in

    East coast rail works

    West coast mass transit is what you want the other assholes on the freeway to take and rail is fine as long as NIMBY

    Euro rail makes east coast rail look silly.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,846
    The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.
  • WestlinnDuckWestlinnDuck Member Posts: 15,713 Standard Supporter
    Also, western Europe has a much larger population density, sort of like the north eastern corridor of the US were Amtrak makes some sense. Plus the local US governments use their transit funds as a union slush fund. Everyone is overpaid and underworked. Not sure what is going on in Europe. Look at BART in the Bay Area. Should be pretty much paid for, but they are not collecting fares, not maintaining track and trains and no way to effectively police the trains when there is no penalty for most crimes in SF.
    Goduckies said:

    The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.

  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,846
    edited June 2022
    trublue said:

    Goduckies said:

    If they were smart about this, the left that is they wouldn't be pushing EV's, they would be pushing rail like Europe has...it is pretty slick, the trains go everywhere, but they still have cars as well, but much less since the trains are so efficient. Problem is cost, but they were just willing to spend 2 trillion on crap... well if they reallocated those funds to that type of project it would accomplish their goals and be useful... you still need airports because nobody is taking a train across county, but it would be very efficient to land at an airport like I did in Zurich and go right up in the mountains on the trains....

    Now having said that I don't think the cost is even close to worth it as it would cost trillions, but if that is their goal, that's where they should start and it would work... the pocketbook would suck for a few years though.

    As much as euros are fags, the rail system works. I took trains all over. Cheap. Easy. Fast. And they go to small towns.

    For the US to build something like this government would have to get the fuck out of the way. The California bullet train is a poster child for shitty government projects. They pay 10x more for it and it sucks if it ever even gets done. Last time I heard Portland light rail now costs about 200 million/mile to build.
    Portland light rail does not work when you need it most - during temperature extremes - heat waves or freezing type temps.
    European trains run in snow just fine
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,846
    edited June 2022

    Also, western Europe has a much larger population density, sort of like the north eastern corridor of the US were Amtrak makes some sense. Plus the local US governments use their transit funds as a union slush fund. Everyone is overpaid and underworked. Not sure what is going on in Europe. Look at BART in the Bay Area. Should be pretty much paid for, but they are not collecting fares, not maintaining track and trains and no way to effectively police the trains when there is no penalty for most crimes in SF.

    Goduckies said:

    The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.

    Sure, that's why I said you need a combo of systems but it would be far more efficient... and I am not calling for it due to cost... but if I was a lefty that's what I would be pushing.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,846

    Also, western Europe has a much larger population density, sort of like the north eastern corridor of the US were Amtrak makes some sense. Plus the local US governments use their transit funds as a union slush fund. Everyone is overpaid and underworked. Not sure what is going on in Europe. Look at BART in the Bay Area. Should be pretty much paid for, but they are not collecting fares, not maintaining track and trains and no way to effectively police the trains when there is no penalty for most crimes in SF.

    Goduckies said:

    The the NEC is a joke compared to Europe... 125 mph max and too many curves. The only positive about WW2 is when they rebuilt Europe they put the trains in and it is very efficient now.

    I think what we are saying is everything the left touches turns to shit.
    Yup
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,831 Standard Supporter
    We’ll be fine. Jay Chinslee is going to blow up all the hydro dams to save fishies.

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