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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    SFGbob said:

    We need more broken families and people on drugs. That seems to be a winning path the leftists have taken us on.

    So you’re saying we need more Progressivism
    Yes. It's helping.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,573
    edited June 2022
    The American public has had easy access to mass produced semi-automatics since the 70's. Why did mass shootings only become a thing since the 00's?

    The guns didn't change. The family dynamic has. There are more single parent households today, than at any point in our country's history.

    Let's also not let video games get a pass here. You can't tell me that hours of shooting people on Call of Duty and killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto doesn't eventually fuck up the mind of a preadolescent child. These have recently only became mainstream since the 00's. Go figure.

    The guns aren't the problem, the raising of sociopathic/psychotic narcissistic men are. But nobody likes being held responsible, so it's a loser at the polls the blame the real culprit. Which are irresponsible parents. This leads to politicians coming up with an inanimate object as the blame. The gun (oh my)! That way people don't need to take responsibility for the way they live their lives. Basically, the liberal way.

    Here's one more thing to stew on:

    More children are killed by drunk drivers every year than gun violence, yet we don't ban alcohol. So why ban guns?

    Edit: what I looked at was vehicle crashes in general not drunk drivers. So, I guess alcohol isn't to blame, it's cars. So I think we should ban them.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited June 2022
    HHusky said:
    Thanks Joe, Bill and Al!

    https://www.aclu.org/blog/smart-justice/mass-incarceration/how-1994-crime-bill-fed-mass-incarceration-crisis


    First, the 1994 crime bill gave the federal stamp of approval for states to pass even more tough-on-crime laws. By 1994, all states had passed at least one mandatory minimum law, but the 1994 crime bill encouraged even more punitive laws and harsher practices on the ground, including by prosecutors and police, to lock up more people and for longer periods of time.

    Second, the 1994 law shaped Democratic Party politics for years to come. Under the leadership of Bill Clinton, Democrats wanted to wrest control of crime issues from Republicans, so the two parties began a bidding war to increase penalties for crime, trying to outdo one another. The 1994 crime bill was a key part of the Democratic strategy to show that it can be tougher-on-crime than Republicans.


    Gee Joe, why the change of heart? The good old days when Biden address the real problem. But guns! Fuck off.

    “We have predators on our streets that society has in fact, in part because of its neglect, created,” said Biden, then a fourth-term senator from Delaware so committed to the bill that he has referred to it over the years as “the Biden bill.”

    “They are beyond the pale many of those people, beyond the pale,” Biden continued. “And it’s a sad commentary on society. We have no choice but to take them out of society.”

    In the speech, Biden described a “cadre of young people, tens of thousands of them, born out of wedlock, without parents, without supervision, without any structure, without any conscience developing because they literally … because they literally have not been socialized, they literally have not had an opportunity.” He said, “we should focus on them now” because “if we don’t, they will, or a portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now.”

    Biden added that he didn’t care “why someone is a malefactor in society” and that criminals needed to be “away from my mother, your husband, our families.”


    And today…
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/08/16/americas-incarceration-rate-lowest-since-1995/

    America’s incarceration rate falls to lowest level since 1995

    But solid effort Herr Dazzler, you almost had him.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,628 Founders Club

    The American public has had easy access to mass produced semi-automatics since the 70's. Why did mass shootings only become a thing since the 00's?

    The guns didn't change. The family dynamic has. There are more single parent households today, than at any point in our country's history.

    Let's also not let video games get a pass here. You can't tell me that hours of shooting people on Call of Duty and killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto doesn't eventually fuck up the mind of a preadolescent child. These have recently only became mainstream since the 00's. Go figure.

    The guns aren't the problem, the raising of sociopathic/psychotic narcissistic men are. But nobody likes being held responsible, so it's a loser at the polls the blame the real culprit. Which are irresponsible parents. This leads to politicians coming up with an inanimate object as the blame. The gun (oh my)! That way people don't need to take responsibility for the way they live their lives. Basically, the liberal way.

    Here's one more thing to stew on:

    More children are killed by drunk drivers every year than gun violence, yet we don't ban alcohol. So why ban guns?

    Edit: what I looked at was vehicle crashes in general not drunk drivers. So, I guess alcohol isn't to blame, it's cars. So I think we should ban them.

    Homicides(and shootings) were actually going down since 00's.

    The only "uptick" in mass shootings is since they redefined it to include things like gang shootings etc.

    If you ACTUALLY adjust those numbers the 90's were/are still way worse.

    The democrats are determined to beat those records though by destroying every blue city they manage!
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 38,757 Standard Supporter

    The American public has had easy access to mass produced semi-automatics since the 70's. Why did mass shootings only become a thing since the 00's?

    The guns didn't change. The family dynamic has. There are more single parent households today, than at any point in our country's history.

    Let's also not let video games get a pass here. You can't tell me that hours of shooting people on Call of Duty and killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto doesn't eventually fuck up the mind of a preadolescent child. These have recently only became mainstream since the 00's. Go figure.

    The guns aren't the problem, the raising of sociopathic/psychotic narcissistic men are. But nobody likes being held responsible, so it's a loser at the polls the blame the real culprit. Which are irresponsible parents. This leads to politicians coming up with an inanimate object as the blame. The gun (oh my)! That way people don't need to take responsibility for the way they live their lives. Basically, the liberal way.

    Here's one more thing to stew on:

    More children are killed by drunk drivers every year than gun violence, yet we don't ban alcohol. So why ban guns?

    Edit: what I looked at was vehicle crashes in general not drunk drivers. So, I guess alcohol isn't to blame, it's cars. So I think we should ban them.

    Before 1932 you could walk into a hardware store and buy a Thompson sub gun or a BAR or any other machinegun you can think of. There are over 200,000 legally owned machineguns in this country. Do oyu know a good machine shop could turn out a submachine gun in maybe 3 hours? Probably less these days.

    We've had magazine fed semiauto rifles sine 1907 for sale in America.

    Why aren't all those machineguns killing people? Why has there never been an NRA member that has committed a mass shooting? Why are they nearly all demonrats?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    Sledog said:

    The American public has had easy access to mass produced semi-automatics since the 70's. Why did mass shootings only become a thing since the 00's?

    The guns didn't change. The family dynamic has. There are more single parent households today, than at any point in our country's history.

    Let's also not let video games get a pass here. You can't tell me that hours of shooting people on Call of Duty and killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto doesn't eventually fuck up the mind of a preadolescent child. These have recently only became mainstream since the 00's. Go figure.

    The guns aren't the problem, the raising of sociopathic/psychotic narcissistic men are. But nobody likes being held responsible, so it's a loser at the polls the blame the real culprit. Which are irresponsible parents. This leads to politicians coming up with an inanimate object as the blame. The gun (oh my)! That way people don't need to take responsibility for the way they live their lives. Basically, the liberal way.

    Here's one more thing to stew on:

    More children are killed by drunk drivers every year than gun violence, yet we don't ban alcohol. So why ban guns?

    Edit: what I looked at was vehicle crashes in general not drunk drivers. So, I guess alcohol isn't to blame, it's cars. So I think we should ban them.

    Before 1932 you could walk into a hardware store and buy a Thompson sub gun or a BAR or any other machinegun you can think of. There are over 200,000 legally owned machineguns in this country. Do oyu know a good machine shop could turn out a submachine gun in maybe 3 hours? Probably less these days.

    We've had magazine fed semiauto rifles sine 1907 for sale in America.

    Why aren't all those machineguns killing people? Why has there never been an NRA member that has committed a mass shooting? Why are they nearly all demonrats?
    You couldn’t buy a cannon in 1789…that’s what I’m hearing.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,628 Founders Club
    Sledog said:

    The American public has had easy access to mass produced semi-automatics since the 70's. Why did mass shootings only become a thing since the 00's?

    The guns didn't change. The family dynamic has. There are more single parent households today, than at any point in our country's history.

    Let's also not let video games get a pass here. You can't tell me that hours of shooting people on Call of Duty and killing prostitutes in Grand Theft Auto doesn't eventually fuck up the mind of a preadolescent child. These have recently only became mainstream since the 00's. Go figure.

    The guns aren't the problem, the raising of sociopathic/psychotic narcissistic men are. But nobody likes being held responsible, so it's a loser at the polls the blame the real culprit. Which are irresponsible parents. This leads to politicians coming up with an inanimate object as the blame. The gun (oh my)! That way people don't need to take responsibility for the way they live their lives. Basically, the liberal way.

    Here's one more thing to stew on:

    More children are killed by drunk drivers every year than gun violence, yet we don't ban alcohol. So why ban guns?

    Edit: what I looked at was vehicle crashes in general not drunk drivers. So, I guess alcohol isn't to blame, it's cars. So I think we should ban them.

    Before 1932 you could walk into a hardware store and buy a Thompson sub gun or a BAR or any other machinegun you can think of. There are over 200,000 legally owned machineguns in this country. Do oyu know a good machine shop could turn out a submachine gun in maybe 3 hours? Probably less these days.

    We've had magazine fed semiauto rifles sine 1907 for sale in America.

    Why aren't all those machineguns killing people? Why has there never been an NRA member that has committed a mass shooting? Why are they nearly all demonrats?
    2 hrs with assembly.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,919
    HHusky said:

    Not enough guns in America.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-memorial-day-shooting-leaves-two-dead-two-injured

    But as blob is always telling us, these people are pretty much predisposed to criminal violence. Nothing can be done, obviously.

    Every Democratic run city sees multiple shootings that involve 2 or more people almost every night.

    Most cities Gun violence has doubled since May 29, 2000. Where have you been?