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  • SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,545 Founders Club
    Well at least the Brits still have balls. Nice to see Germany dragged kicking and screaming toward selling Ukraine weapons. I don't even like the Ukraine government anymore, but I hate Putin worse. They all suck.
  • GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 6,863
    Swaye said:

    Well at least the Brits still have balls. Nice to see Germany dragged kicking and screaming toward selling Ukraine weapons. I don't even like the Ukraine government anymore, but I hate Putin worse. They all suck.

    Exactly both suck but Fuck Putin... and man like you said at least the UK has balls!
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,207 Swaye's Wigwam
    Swaye said:

    Well at least the Brits still have balls. Nice to see Germany dragged kicking and screaming toward selling Ukraine weapons. I don't even like the Ukraine government anymore, but I hate Putin worse. They all suck.

    You shouldn't like ANY government. Welcome to realpolotik.
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Well at least the Brits still have balls. Nice to see Germany dragged kicking and screaming toward selling Ukraine weapons. I don't even like the Ukraine government anymore, but I hate Putin worse. They all suck.

    You shouldn't like ANY government. Welcome to realpolotik.
    OK, Klaus
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,733 Founders Club
    I'm not that excited about WW3
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,932 Swaye's Wigwam

    I'm not that excited about WW3

    Then just submit and put the Ukraine flag in your Twitter picture.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,207 Swaye's Wigwam

    Swaye said:

    Well at least the Brits still have balls. Nice to see Germany dragged kicking and screaming toward selling Ukraine weapons. I don't even like the Ukraine government anymore, but I hate Putin worse. They all suck.

    You shouldn't like ANY government. Welcome to realpolotik.
    OK, Klaus
    "In the execution of such a plan nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others should be excluded, and that in place of them just and amicable feelings toward all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges toward another an habitual hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur.

    So, likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter without adequate inducement or justification. It leads also to concessions to the favorite nation of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions by unnecessarily parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted, or deluded citizens (who devote themselves to the favorite nation) facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country without odium, sometimes even with popularity, gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation....
    " ~some faggot op

    Tldr nations have interests not friends
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,932 Swaye's Wigwam
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,932 Founders Club
    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.
  • SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,322 Founders Club
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    Totalitarians don't like each other. There can only be one.
  • Bob_CBob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,932 Swaye's Wigwam
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    I took it as no one wants a superpower with military bases and weapons right by them. Story as old as time.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,939 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited April 2022
    Bob_C said:
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    Not sure how many of you here are up to date on the political issues with the Solomon Islands, but the citizens there are opposing the prime minister who is aligning with China. Lots of recent protests, and anti-Chinese stuff, while the prime minister is trying to contract with China military to quell the people. China is using it to get a foothold in the South Pacific and wants a puppet there.

    US is late to the game in trying to reestablish an embassy there. More foreign policy issues but whatever. We'll see if the US or Australia can prevent a dictator with aligning with China.

    Also, FWIW, Aussies hate China. Lot of tariff issues lately.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,733 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    Not sure how many of you here are up to date on the political issues with the Solomon Islands, but the citizens there are opposing the prime minister who is aligning with China. Lots of recent protests, and anti-Chinese stuff, while the prime minister is trying to contract with China military to quell the people. China is using it to get a foothold in the South Pacific and wants a puppet there.

    US is late to the game in trying to reestablish an embassy there. More foreign policy issues but whatever. We'll see if the US or Australia can prevent a dictator with aligning with China.

    Also, FWIW, Aussies hate China. Lot of tariff issues lately.
    The board was lacking a Solomon Island superiority guy
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 16,207 Swaye's Wigwam

    Bob_C said:
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    Not sure how many of you here are up to date on the political issues with the Solomon Islands, but the citizens there are opposing the prime minister who is aligning with China. Lots of recent protests, and anti-Chinese stuff, while the prime minister is trying to contract with China military to quell the people. China is using it to get a foothold in the South Pacific and wants a puppet there.

    US is late to the game in trying to reestablish an embassy there. More foreign policy issues but whatever. We'll see if the US or Australia can prevent a dictator with aligning with China.

    Also, FWIW, Aussies hate China. Lot of tariff issues lately.
    The board was lacking a Solomon Island superiority guy
    Hurtful.
  • RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,932 Founders Club

    Bob_C said:
    RoadTrip said:

    Not sure many in the US are justifying Russia's invasion. I think what was more interesting in that article was Australia's objection to the Chinese base. Hell, Australia became China during Covid. You would think their government would welcome more totalitarianism.

    Not sure how many of you here are up to date on the political issues with the Solomon Islands, but the citizens there are opposing the prime minister who is aligning with China. Lots of recent protests, and anti-Chinese stuff, while the prime minister is trying to contract with China military to quell the people. China is using it to get a foothold in the South Pacific and wants a puppet there.

    US is late to the game in trying to reestablish an embassy there. More foreign policy issues but whatever. We'll see if the US or Australia can prevent a dictator with aligning with China.

    Also, FWIW, Aussies hate China. Lot of tariff issues lately.
    The board was lacking a Solomon Island superiority guy
    Hurtful.
    Obligatory
  • Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989

    I'm not that excited about WW3

    Sending a bunch of healthy young men to die at war = more bitches for us.

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