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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,642 Standard Supporter
    Wonder what percentage of this "aid" gets to its intended target. Start with 10% for the Big Guy and then what?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,134 Standard Supporter
    Who knew wagging the dog cost so much?

  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    My local Albertsons asked me to donate when inputting my credit card. I wonder where Albertsons is sending peoples donations?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 68,543 Founders Club
    edited April 2022
    Where's Congress in all this? I know they approved $14 billion that we don't have to send over there. But every week its "Biden sends this, Biden sends that"
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,143 Founders Club

    Where's Congress in all this? I know they approved $14 billion that we don't have to send over there. But every week its "Biden sends this, Biden sends that"

    It's almost like Mitch the Bitch and Romney and the rest are guilty as fuck
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    One day we will wake up and won't be able to recognize this country. It will look like downtown LA or Seattle in every corner of the nation.
  • Southerndawg
    Southerndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,347 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    One day we will wake up and won't be able to recognize this country. It will look like downtown LA or Seattle in every corner of the nation.


    Not so fast my friend.



  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    Where's Congress in all this? I know they approved $14 billion that we don't have to send over there. But every week its "Biden sends this, Biden sends that"

    The link Paws provided to that blogger Zelensky had murdered was most likely telling the truth. Zelensky is a tool of NATO and our? swamp aka the industrial war complex, aka the green gaia wants to steal the vast resources in Ukraine and Russia. I'll have to listen to more of his streams but I'd venture to guess that's what we were doing in the middle east as well.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    Where's Congress in all this? I know they approved $14 billion that we don't have to send over there. But every week its "Biden sends this, Biden sends that"

    It's almost like Mitch the Bitch and Romney and the rest are guilty as fuck
    Of course they are. They're getting paid too. We? are not a country of the people, by the people, for the people. These fucking assholes are robbing us blind. But hey as long as we? have our espn, netfucks and some weed it's all good maaaan.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club
    jecornel said:

    One day we will wake up and won't be able to recognize this country. It will look like downtown LA or Seattle in every corner of the nation.

    One day? Fuck man, Folsom, CA has street beggers and tents off the highways and near shopping centers today. HWY 99 is a homeless camp.
  • jecornel
    jecornel Member Posts: 9,737
    RoadTrip said:

    jecornel said:

    One day we will wake up and won't be able to recognize this country. It will look like downtown LA or Seattle in every corner of the nation.

    One day? Fuck man, Folsom, CA has street beggers and tents off the highways and near shopping centers today. HWY 99 is a homeless camp.
    Good poont.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,143 Founders Club
    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


    Doesn't sound like an installed dictator in the vein of Biden, Macron, Trudeau or Merkel's chosen successor Scholz at all.
  • HoustonHusky
    HoustonHusky Member Posts: 6,000

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Maybe he could meet up with Gonzalo Lira?
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557

    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


    You do understand the kind of war they’re in? A full on invasion to destroy their existence, by which I don’t just mean the government in the capital, but full on destroy the existence of any civil resistance to Russian control? I think martial law is an appropriate response, don’t you?

    As for “banning opposition parties” they banned ones that are considered pro-Russian. An extreme reaction, but wouldn’t most countries do the same during an existential threat? During the US Civil War, which wasn’t even a foreign invasion, did habeas corpus get suspended? Did elected representatives from rebellious states get expelled from Congress? Should politicians who are under arrest for treason, or those who have defected to the invading country, be allowed free reign?
  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


    You do understand the kind of war they’re in? A full on invasion to destroy their existence, by which I don’t just mean the government in the capital, but full on destroy the existence of any civil resistance to Russian control? I think martial law is an appropriate response, don’t you?

    As for “banning opposition parties” they banned ones that are considered pro-Russian. An extreme reaction, but wouldn’t most countries do the same during an existential threat? During the US Civil War, which wasn’t even a foreign invasion, did habeas corpus get suspended? Did elected representatives from rebellious states get expelled from Congress? Should politicians who are under arrest for treason, or those who have defected to the invading country, be allowed free reign?
    Who gets to determine whether someone is pro-Russian? Let the rest of NATO fund them.
  • RatherBeBrewing
    RatherBeBrewing Member Posts: 1,557
    RoadTrip said:

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
    I saw @paws post and I know who he’s talking about. He’s a former American sex tourist that used to put out videos under the name “Coach Red Pill” and since the invasion decided to change from that to pretend journalist. He has been spouting off lies left and right, while calling this “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history” even while the city he lived in is being destroyed by Russian artillery.

    I’d guess he’s alive. Maybe in Ukraine, maybe in Russia. I doubt the SBU would kill him, but possible. I wouldn’t rule it out. Journalists, real ones, have been killed, but mostly by Russian soldiers. It’s also possible that some Ukrainian checkpoint looked through his phone and saw all the pro-Russia content and just executed him on the spot. It’s the same thing the Russians do, and that’s why wars are bad.

    The Snowden thing is just an observation for those who believe he’s anything other than a Russian agent, hence why I said “not particularly related” and only mentioned it because Greenwald was used and his hypocrisy has always been fascinating to me.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,143 Founders Club

    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


    You do understand the kind of war they’re in? A full on invasion to destroy their existence, by which I don’t just mean the government in the capital, but full on destroy the existence of any civil resistance to Russian control? I think martial law is an appropriate response, don’t you?

    As for “banning opposition parties” they banned ones that are considered pro-Russian. An extreme reaction, but wouldn’t most countries do the same during an existential threat? During the US Civil War, which wasn’t even a foreign invasion, did habeas corpus get suspended? Did elected representatives from rebellious states get expelled from Congress? Should politicians who are under arrest for treason, or those who have defected to the invading country, be allowed free reign?
    America and the USSR fought a decades long cold war with active Communist participation in the democratic party

    America had nazi symps in WW2. Lindy among others

    Ukraine can do what they want but Zelifsky can stfu about telling other countries what to do

    The friend of my enemy is my enemy

    If Putin said he was taking Russia back to Communism those Twitter Ukrainian flags would become the hammer and sickle overnight

    Not my fight

    Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining freedom
  • Bob_C
    Bob_C Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,738 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
    I saw @paws post and I know who he’s talking about. He’s a former American sex tourist that used to put out videos under the name “Coach Red Pill” and since the invasion decided to change from that to pretend journalist. He has been spouting off lies left and right, while calling this “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history” even while the city he lived in is being destroyed by Russian artillery.

    I’d guess he’s alive. Maybe in Ukraine, maybe in Russia. I doubt the SBU would kill him, but possible. I wouldn’t rule it out. Journalists, real ones, have been killed, but mostly by Russian soldiers. It’s also possible that some Ukrainian checkpoint looked through his phone and saw all the pro-Russia content and just executed him on the spot. It’s the same thing the Russians do, and that’s why wars are bad.

    The Snowden thing is just an observation for those who believe he’s anything other than a Russian agent, hence why I said “not particularly related” and only mentioned it because Greenwald was used and his hypocrisy has always been fascinating to me.
    Why does it matter who Snowden was allied to (or whatever word we want to use)? If his information is real, which based on the reactions of the government it seems likely, his motives are not that interesting or relevant.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,134 Standard Supporter

    America has had robust opposition to our wars even WW1 when some fascist president tried to outlaw it.

    We're paying for this?


    You do understand the kind of war they’re in? A full on invasion to destroy their existence, by which I don’t just mean the government in the capital, but full on destroy the existence of any civil resistance to Russian control? I think martial law is an appropriate response, don’t you?

    As for “banning opposition parties” they banned ones that are considered pro-Russian. An extreme reaction, but wouldn’t most countries do the same during an existential threat? During the US Civil War, which wasn’t even a foreign invasion, did habeas corpus get suspended? Did elected representatives from rebellious states get expelled from Congress? Should politicians who are under arrest for treason, or those who have defected to the invading country, be allowed free reign?
    America and the USSR fought a decades long cold war with active Communist participation in the democratic party

    America had nazi symps in WW2. Lindy among others

    Ukraine can do what they want but Zelifsky can stfu about telling other countries what to do

    The friend of my enemy is my enemy

    If Putin said he was taking Russia back to Communism those Twitter Ukrainian flags would become the hammer and sickle overnight

    Not my fight

    Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining freedom



    I ain't got no quarrel with them Russkies. Or Ukraineans
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,480 Founders Club
    edited April 2022

    RoadTrip said:

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
    I saw @paws post and I know who he’s talking about. He’s a former American sex tourist that used to put out videos under the name “Coach Red Pill” and since the invasion decided to change from that to pretend journalist. He has been spouting off lies left and right, while calling this “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history” even while the city he lived in is being destroyed by Russian artillery.

    I’d guess he’s alive. Maybe in Ukraine, maybe in Russia. I doubt the SBU would kill him, but possible. I wouldn’t rule it out. Journalists, real ones, have been killed, but mostly by Russian soldiers. It’s also possible that some Ukrainian checkpoint looked through his phone and saw all the pro-Russia content and just executed him on the spot. It’s the same thing the Russians do, and that’s why wars are bad.

    The Snowden thing is just an observation for those who believe he’s anything other than a Russian agent, hence why I said “not particularly related” and only mentioned it because Greenwald was used and his hypocrisy has always been fascinating to me.

    Uhhhhh .... OK!

    I have no idea how you gleaned this about Gonzalo. It sounds like a smear by someone who hasn't spent more that 3 minutes with his content. I've consumed probably a 100 of hours, and that characterization as merely a sex tourist doesn't hold water. If you have a negative opinion of the 'red pill/man-o-sphere' to begin with, that would make a lot more sense.


    Would love to hear why you think Greenwald is a hypocrite.


    I've thoroughly enjoyed your perspective on UKR, but you seemed to have taken the long way through the woods wearing a blindfold on these two topics.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,134 Standard Supporter
    pawz said:

    RoadTrip said:

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
    I saw @paws post and I know who he’s talking about. He’s a former American sex tourist that used to put out videos under the name “Coach Red Pill” and since the invasion decided to change from that to pretend journalist. He has been spouting off lies left and right, while calling this “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history” even while the city he lived in is being destroyed by Russian artillery.

    I’d guess he’s alive. Maybe in Ukraine, maybe in Russia. I doubt the SBU would kill him, but possible. I wouldn’t rule it out. Journalists, real ones, have been killed, but mostly by Russian soldiers. It’s also possible that some Ukrainian checkpoint looked through his phone and saw all the pro-Russia content and just executed him on the spot. It’s the same thing the Russians do, and that’s why wars are bad.

    The Snowden thing is just an observation for those who believe he’s anything other than a Russian agent, hence why I said “not particularly related” and only mentioned it because Greenwald was used and his hypocrisy has always been fascinating to me.

    Uhhhhh .... OK!

    I have no idea how you gleaned this about Gonzalo. It sounds like a smear by someone who hasn't spent more that 3 minutes with his content. I've consumed probably a 100 of hours, and that characterization as merely a sex tourist doesn't hold water.


    Would love to hear why you think Greenwald is a hypocrite.


    I've thoroughly enjoyed your perspective on UKR, but you seemed to have taken the long way through the woods wearing a blindfold on these two topics.

    If you're bashing sex tourists, I'm the fuck out.

  • RoadTrip
    RoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,171 Founders Club

    RoadTrip said:

    I had originally written a long explanation (shocking, I know) of how aid includes military transfers and the accounting associated with that, the disastrous SOAE miscalculation of the Nunn-Lugar Act, an explanation of how much money the US gave Russia post 1991 to fund our enemies, and the like. But, unless there’s an unlikely event of someone wanting me to expound on it, this should suffice:

    By ROI this has got to be the most efficient military spending in US history since the Spanish-American war.

    Not particularly related, but I think Glenn Greenwald and the Brazilian boy orphan he adopted and married should visit Grozny and do some investigative reporting from there. Maybe they can even find out why Snowden has been MIA for almost two months now.

    Did you take a look at Paws' post about Gonzalo Lira? I take it you think he was a a Russian asset who Zelensky needed gone? Hadn't heard about Snowden being MIS bit how does that support your position that we should be funding NATO and Ukraine?
    I saw @paws post and I know who he’s talking about. He’s a former American sex tourist that used to put out videos under the name “Coach Red Pill” and since the invasion decided to change from that to pretend journalist. He has been spouting off lies left and right, while calling this “one of the most brilliant invasions in military history” even while the city he lived in is being destroyed by Russian artillery.

    I’d guess he’s alive. Maybe in Ukraine, maybe in Russia. I doubt the SBU would kill him, but possible. I wouldn’t rule it out. Journalists, real ones, have been killed, but mostly by Russian soldiers. It’s also possible that some Ukrainian checkpoint looked through his phone and saw all the pro-Russia content and just executed him on the spot. It’s the same thing the Russians do, and that’s why wars are bad.

    The Snowden thing is just an observation for those who believe he’s anything other than a Russian agent, hence why I said “not particularly related” and only mentioned it because Greenwald was used and his hypocrisy has always been fascinating to me.
    Oh fuck off with your RAT talking points. You just lost any shred of credibility with that sex bullshit. You remind me of LAcoug.