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Have we always been this corrupt of a country and I've just been naive most of my life?

SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
edited March 2022 in Tug Tavern
Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



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  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113

    The main change is who holds the reins of power

    As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them

    The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely

    And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people

    You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere

    When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,766 Founders Club
    SFGbob said:

    The main change is who holds the reins of power

    As a youngster the real liberals and the leftists said the FBI under Hoover and the CIA under everyone was corrupt. Conservatives defended them

    The left took over the tools of power and now have corrupted them completely

    And if you point that out you are attacking our norms and values as a country. Conservatives are still uncomfortable facing this reality. So we have this weird authoritarian establishment uni party against the people

    You see it from the schoolhouse to the white house. The true believers are everywhere

    When confronted with Nixon's corruption many of his GOP supporters abandoned him. When confronted with some of the very same type of corruption; using the IRS to harass your political opponents, not a single Rat turned on Obama. Have you heard a single Rat call Biden out for his "Russian disinformation" lies? And how do you think falsely smearing Russia for these past 6 years has impacted our relationship with them?
    Also the democrats are the first to accuse the GOP of party before country

    Laughable

    The Trump years did great damage to our precious institutions and standing and it wasn't Trump that did it

    Although he was dressed provocatively
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,766 Founders Club
    It's also a hard road to get off of

    Guys like Chuck Todd are now eviscerated by the left if they criticize Biden at all

    It's all fun and games hating Trump but Stephen Miller is right. They fucked themselves
  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,874 Standard Supporter
    The old dog ate my homework play.

  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,637
    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 33,113
    edited March 2022
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Need to update the talking points Dazzler. The new hero Zelensky says that Trump never pressured him to do anything and the only thing he resents out of that entire affair is that your team leaked the phone call.

    Once again you're OUTRAGED over military aid that Ukraine received while you continue to suck Obama and Biden's cocks while they refused to provide Ukraine with any lethal miltary aid. Btw, what's it like always swallowing like a bitch Dazzler? You were all in on the Hunter Biden laptop being "Russian disinformation." At what point do you start to question your sources of information Dazzler, the same sources that told you "Daddy" withheld military aid?

    You must really enjoy sucking old man dick Dazzler.
  • MelloDawgMelloDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,760 Swaye's Wigwam
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Right, but they got the aid so the withholding doesn’t matter anymore.

    Alternatively, one can just say something never happened and then that means it never happened.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    Watergate was Nixon wanting to find out what LBJ had on him via wiretaps. Very under reported

    Of course when Obama "wire tapped" Trump NOGAF in our media

    Bob makes a good point. No one circles the wagons like the left.

    Meanwhile conservatives want to lose the right way and do the right thing and call out their own to show moral fiber

    Moral fiber is great but you get Husky football playing Oregon

    If Nixon had (D) and wasn't anti communist no one would know what Watergate was

    The GOP does like winning and losing the right way. I read an interview with Darrell Issa recently where he was discussing all of the subpoenas the GOP House is sending out. They're doing so in anticipation of taking back the House. Their goal is to be ready to call people in because no one is responding to their subpoenas.

    But something he said made was very deflating. The RATS do not play fair where committees are concerned and he acknowledged that. J6th is a prime example. He said Pelosi has been terrible lately and has no regards for the rules. But then he said that the GOP will not do the things that the RATS do because they believe in doing things the RIGHT way. They will give the Left a voice in committees because the minority is owed that. Losers, lose.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    Another fucking lie from Fatso. Just keep that puke hole closed, Biden voter.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,766 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    Or have we slowly devolved into a 3rd World banana republic?



    Uhhh, yeah.

    Daddy withheld military aid to Ukraine in order to extort political advantage three years ago, but the failure to locate 9 to 12 year-old records concerning a the Veep's kid? Now THAT's corruption.

    You gals are pathetic.
    @RatherBeBrewing wonders why we don't listen to him

    This is why

    It's an American domestic political matter paid in blood by Uranians

    As long as the same lying hacks the last 5 years are peddling yet more bullshit I'll pass

    Biden isn't your friend Ukraine

  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,766 Founders Club
    The javelin missiles were sent by Trump

    But still
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 21,637

    The javelin missiles were sent by Trump

    But still

    Sometimes Daddy's crimes got exposed. He didn't have a lot of choice.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,491 Standard Supporter
    Obammy is running the show and he's as deep as deep state gets!

    Criminal how they've stolen our elections. Look up what Wisconsin just put out. Widespread fraud they said. But no proof according to our commie shitbags here.
  • 46XiJCAB46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Remember when Fatso cried about Barry and Joey sending MRE’s and blankets when Ukraine wanted things that spit metal and “blowed” things up?

    They didn’t want to upset Putin.

    Barry and Joey were Putin’s cock BFF’s.

    But Trump.

    Fatso, sit this out you have no room to talk.
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