Russ to Denver
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This is once again amazing. I thought the Rams game would be 3 points either way.
As of right now, Hawks with #3 pick overall, and then somewhere around #14 in first round and then around #35 in second round. -
Eli shouldn't be near the HOF but he won the Super Bowl twice! And New YawkBleachedAnusDawg said:
Good enough to win a SB with an elite defense. Good enough to also lose a SB with an elite defense. Their playoff record since then was laughable with wins against very suspect teams, as was pointed out. Top-10 during his era, yes, but I would have him closer to 10 than 1. I don't think he's HOF material at all, but I seem to have higher standards than many people because I also think Eli should not get in and that more than half the guys in Halls of Fame are not really deserving.dnc said:I'd love for you to back up your assertion that he's top 10ish for his career with any sort of objective metric.
I already gave you the players top 100 perspective.
Pro Bowl:
2012: 1 of 11 (last NFL alternate so you could argue as low as 11th)
2013: 1 of 6 originally selected
2014: 1 of 6 originally selected
2015: 1 of 6 originally selected, starter
2016: Not selected
2017: 1 of 6 originally selected
2018: 1 of 12 (first NFC alternate, so you could argue as low as 10th)
2019: 1 of 6 originally selected, selected as starter
2020: 1 of 6 originally selected
2021: 1 of 10 (second NFC alternate, you could argue as low as 10th)
Brady has been to 9 Pro Bowls in that time. Rodgers has been to 8. Brees went to 7 in his 9 years of this span.
Big Ben went to 6...total in his career. Matt Ryan's been to 4 total. Mahomes has been to 4 straight. Eli went to 4 total. Lamar's been to 2 in 4 seasons. Cam made 3. Matt Stafford and Josh Allen have been to 1.
Russ has firmly been inside the top 10 the vast majority of his career, and is probably around an average of the 5th best QB at any given point in his career. I get you don't like the guy and that's fine. He's not especially likable.
I doubt you have any real argument for his as "top 10ish" for his career. You certainly don't have any argument for "pretty good at best". At his best he's absolutely the elite of the elite. I agree he's not been that consistently. But he's been a lot better than pretty good, and certainly better than pretty good at best. -
He was consistently a top 3 to 8 QB for 10 years. He earned it. That said, I appreciate what he did, but seeing him fall to pieces in Dumbver is funny. The 5-10 Lambs destroyed them yesterday. You can tell Carroll had enough of him by reading between the lines.BleachedAnusDawg said:Any Hooks able to now admit that he's nowhere close to HOF material?
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I mean I don't think he's an evil human being but people always overlook the phony, corny, and cringe shit when you're winning and 12-4, not when you're 7-10 and whine about the o line on national radio shows.
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It’s incredible how enjoyable the Broncos failure has been. 11/10 would recommend shipping out your egomaniac “Franchise QB”
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Hackett: Door. Ass. Out.
