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5-star QB's usually suck
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Turned into an interesting thread
This Millen stat was debunked
His stat on Ty after 3 years wasn't although a lot of folks wanted it to be -
I think a lot of you are missing the point, which is that 5* QBs aren’t a sure thing and there are too many people expecting that Huard is going to be Cam Newton simply because he’s a 5*. It doesn’t work that way.
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I don’t really care, but Huard does suck. Any guy that plays that bad and can’t beat out Morris isn’t great.
I know the response will be about coaching, but it’s also doogish hope to expect him to be any better than above average at his peak. -
Good thread but the entire premise is so "thanks captain obvious" that I wonder just how bored Millen is right now.
Nobody GAFabout Huard's star rating. It's the way he throws the football that led to that rating that keeps hope alive.
It's not new news that good prospects fail all the time. I'd say good try, but shit like this is really equivalent to the old man yelling at the cloud meme many of us have posted here. He's trying to make a point in an imaginary argument. -
But that's not it at all. Of the 45 5 star samples in the field, he's dropping the top 6, keeping the next 12 (Huard is 19), and dropping the next 26.whatshouldicareabout said:
I guess the analysis was more about the lowest 5*s than all 5*s.dnc said:
Lawrence and Fields were absolutely above Huard in both positional ranking and composite scores. As was Can Newton. And Vince YoungBleachedAnusDawg said:
Those guys weren't the 12 directly above Huard. Hugh's numbers were based on #'s 7 - 18. He decided to toss them out because the top 5 guys are generational recruits.dnc said:One of them won a NY6 game.
Have done zero research but this 100% can't be true. Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields both won playoff games and they were both top 3 overall in their class (top 2 I believe).
Chris Leak was behind him positionally (13 to 12) but ahead of him in composite score which is how 247 compares recruits across multiple classes.
And if Hugh was using a different ranking system he's still not finding one that put Huard above Lawrence and Fields (or Newton or Young).
Brody Croyle also ranked well above Huard and won a NY6 bowl. I'm sure there are plenty of others.
This data is super flawed.
EDIT: I misunderstood you. So he eliminated the guys above Huard who disprove his premise and the guys below Huard (like Tebow, Tua and Winston) who disprove his premise so he could focus on a super narrow set of rankings that supposed to prove something?
W.
JW.
Holy fuck Hugh.
It's an "analysis" of upper middle 5 stars.
Which is far too specific of a sampling to worth anything when the samples directly above and directly below directly contradict the conclusion he wants to provide. -
I pretty much agree, but I do think that he is also attempting to inform Doog Nation that Huard is likely not going to be the savior (or he's just being a bitter asshole). But think about how stupid our fanbase is, led by people like Kimmie who ask how much of a hard-on the head coach has for the players' stars.chuck said:Good thread but the entire premise is so "thanks captain obvious" that I wonder just how bored Millen is right now.
Nobody GAFabout Huard's star rating. It's the way he throws the football that led to that rating that keeps hope alive.
It's not new news that good prospects fail all the time. I'd say good try, but shit like this is really equivalent to the old man yelling at the cloud meme many of us have posted here. He's trying to make a point in an imaginary argument. -
It’s something anyone that follows CFB and recruiting knows. Most QB’s are busts.
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You're right. I do forget how stupid fans are and doogism is its own thing altogether.BleachedAnusDawg said:
I pretty much agree, but I do think that he is also attempting to inform Doog Nation that Huard is likely not going to be the savior (or he's just being a bitter asshole). But think about how stupid our fanbase is, led by people like Kimmie who ask how much of a hard-on the head coach has for the players' stars.chuck said:Good thread but the entire premise is so "thanks captain obvious" that I wonder just how bored Millen is right now.
Nobody GAFabout Huard's star rating. It's the way he throws the football that led to that rating that keeps hope alive.
It's not new news that good prospects fail all the time. I'd say good try, but shit like this is really equivalent to the old man yelling at the cloud meme many of us have posted here. He's trying to make a point in an imaginary argument.
Huard was apparently a project. It's not that surprising. I feel like hope is pretty slim thst hell be good given how bad it was for him last season. Penix is almost certainly going to win the job unless he breaks down in camp. If there is any competition whatsoever between Morris and Huard then we'll know for sure. -
Isn’t this an outdated argument anyway?
You don’t need to hit with your qb croots anymore. The portal renders it mute. Just grab a mercenary off the pile every year and pay him🤷♂️ -
The real "U" had that 5* kid out of Danville who was "can't miss", and miss he did. I now want Miami to avoid 5* QBs because Huge Mellon deductive prowess.
Just giving you shit Bleached. Although this does smack of someone trying too hard to make a point.
In football recruiting, as in life, all any of us can do is make the best decision we can with the information at hand. If a kid has enough visible talent to draw interest from many top-tier programs, and you see it too, and he wants to play for you, then you take him. Fuck the rest of it.
Nobody is going to know how the kid's brain will work at the next level until he drops back and makes decisions at game speed in the actual ... you know, game. Supposably that was the issue with the Swede. That and accuracy. But otherwise, ....
