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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Democrats will democrat. BTW Tammany Hall were democrats. CRT doesn't really teach that




    In Tammany New York, votes were acquired through social contact and practical favors, financial and legal assistance, jobs and drinks at the pub. The direct financial beneficiaries were, yes, the politicians and the businessmen who got contracts at far above the market price—-but also the poor families whose rent got paid, the boy who got a job working for the new El being put up along Greenwich Street and 9th Avenue, the couple whose hotel room was paid for when they were burnt out of their apartment. In less cynical terms: Tammany was a corruption, but it was a corruption of something good: the idea that government should, as Plunkitt said, be “warm and personal;” that decisions should be made locally; that rulers should directly and practically help the ruled; that there should be an everyday and immediate connection between the politicians and the people
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    When we're corrupt it's good - democrats
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter
    https://www.americanheritage.com/battle-athens

    Keep up the election theft. The greatest generation fixed it in some places. Citizens with guns worked quite well here.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344
    If anything, the law in Georgia is specific to not allow for weasel words. "Well, you didn't say we couldn't pass out water! So we're passing out water and wearing these shirts that just have our candidate's name on it"
    You'd think lawyers would be able to pick up on things like that.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,027
    edited February 2022

    Democrats will democrat. BTW Tammany Hall were democrats. CRT doesn't really teach that




    In Tammany New York, votes were acquired through social contact and practical favors, financial and legal assistance, jobs and drinks at the pub. The direct financial beneficiaries were, yes, the politicians and the businessmen who got contracts at far above the market price—-but also the poor families whose rent got paid, the boy who got a job working for the new El being put up along Greenwich Street and 9th Avenue, the couple whose hotel room was paid for when they were burnt out of their apartment. In less cynical terms: Tammany was a corruption, but it was a corruption of something good: the idea that government should, as Plunkitt said, be “warm and personal;” that decisions should be made locally; that rulers should directly and practically help the ruled; that there should be an everyday and immediate connection between the politicians and the people

    https://internauta-online.com/2014/06/theodore-roosevelt-how-we-overthrew-corrupt-tammany-hall/

    History repeating itself. Police doing the government's bidding, corrupt politicians, newspapers running cover.

    No wonder the Dems yanked down TR's statue.

  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    If those rules in Georgia were so awful, why did Democrats win both the senate races? Why did Stacey Abrams avoid Biden when he came to Georgia to further distort the claims about the laws?

    You can’t be serious. The statute was amended. It says exactly what I said it says.

    But Stacey Abrams!
    Stacey Abrams did have lots to say about Georgia voting laws, so she's quite relevant. Did you think that was dunking on me?

    It says what it says...which is what? Are these Jim Crow 2.0 laws, as you say? And I am serious, if these laws are as nefarious as you say, it would seem that no black people were able to vote, and republicans won.

    Or...what are you saying exactly?
    Here is what I am saying: Democrats and their media buddies severely distorted the laws and made them sound so evil that it's laughable. You *seem* to be parroting that nonsense. Maybe you are not. I am saying that blue states have similar laws. All states have some laws about voting that could be deemed as *restrictive* if CNN wants to write about it. I also note that not all politicians in Georgia are white, and that the laws had to pass through at least some non white scrutiny. So there's that. And I don't live there, so maybe I'm missing something. And is it just about 'passing out water'? Yes, the heat is sweltering in November and people have to stand in line for 8 hours. C'mon man.

    What is that you are saying?
    Delaware has stricter voting laws than Georgia. Must be like Jim Crow 2.0 on steroids.
  • hardhat
    hardhat Member Posts: 8,344

    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    If those rules in Georgia were so awful, why did Democrats win both the senate races? Why did Stacey Abrams avoid Biden when he came to Georgia to further distort the claims about the laws?

    You can’t be serious. The statute was amended. It says exactly what I said it says.

    But Stacey Abrams!
    Stacey Abrams did have lots to say about Georgia voting laws, so she's quite relevant. Did you think that was dunking on me?

    It says what it says...which is what? Are these Jim Crow 2.0 laws, as you say? And I am serious, if these laws are as nefarious as you say, it would seem that no black people were able to vote, and republicans won.

    Or...what are you saying exactly?
    Here is what I am saying: Democrats and their media buddies severely distorted the laws and made them sound so evil that it's laughable. You *seem* to be parroting that nonsense. Maybe you are not. I am saying that blue states have similar laws. All states have some laws about voting that could be deemed as *restrictive* if CNN wants to write about it. I also note that not all politicians in Georgia are white, and that the laws had to pass through at least some non white scrutiny. So there's that. And I don't live there, so maybe I'm missing something. And is it just about 'passing out water'? Yes, the heat is sweltering in November and people have to stand in line for 8 hours. C'mon man.

    What is that you are saying?
    Delaware has stricter voting laws than Georgia. Must be like Jim Crow 2.0 on steroids.
    I simply tried to engage.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    I like how this started with someone laughing at a peaceful protestor being denied bail, and now it's shifted to a CNN narrative of voter laws in Georgia being somehow racist. Not overly, but if you really look hard, you can at least see the systemic racism and bias in there.

    I simply answered a question.

    No, you don't answer questions. That's because you're a shitty human being. You'd cut off a limb rather than answer a simple Y/N question. Clown.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    I like how this started with someone laughing at a peaceful protestor being denied bail, and now it's shifted to a CNN narrative of voter laws in Georgia being somehow racist. Not overly, but if you really look hard, you can at least see the systemic racism and bias in there.

    I simply answered a question.

    No, you don't answer questions. That's because you're a shitty human being. You'd cut off a limb rather than answer a simple Y/N question. Clown.
    Can you imagine being a client of our hypothetical lawyer and asking him for his opinion on your legal case and then expecting an honest and accurate answer?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    hardhat said:

    I like how this started with someone laughing at a peaceful protestor being denied bail, and now it's shifted to a CNN narrative of voter laws in Georgia being somehow racist. Not overly, but if you really look hard, you can at least see the systemic racism and bias in there.

    I simply answered a question.

    No, you don't answer questions. That's because you're a shitty human being. You'd cut off a limb rather than answer a simple Y/N question. Clown.
    Can you imagine being a client of our hypothetical lawyer and asking him for his opinion on your legal case and then expecting an honest and accurate answer?
    Almost like asking the Devil if hell is hot? "Well that depends on what hot means to you". This would be the typical Dazzler response. Yes or No answers require you take ownership.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    Democrats will democrat. BTW Tammany Hall were democrats. CRT doesn't really teach that




    In Tammany New York, votes were acquired through social contact and practical favors, financial and legal assistance, jobs and drinks at the pub. The direct financial beneficiaries were, yes, the politicians and the businessmen who got contracts at far above the market price—-but also the poor families whose rent got paid, the boy who got a job working for the new El being put up along Greenwich Street and 9th Avenue, the couple whose hotel room was paid for when they were burnt out of their apartment. In less cynical terms: Tammany was a corruption, but it was a corruption of something good: the idea that government should, as Plunkitt said, be “warm and personal;” that decisions should be made locally; that rulers should directly and practically help the ruled; that there should be an everyday and immediate connection between the politicians and the people

    More proof, as if more was needed, that Race misses the 19th Century.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Voter rolls are cleaned up periodically, but they'll never be perfectly accurate.

    I've got a kid registered to vote here and in California. So it would be possible for her to vote twice. But like 99.9999% of the population registered in two states, she doesn't.

    This is a crime that isn't being committed, but you girls want to disenfranchise people because it's possible for someone to commit it.

    My ballot gets signature checked, btw. Doesn't yours?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    HHusky said:

    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Voter rolls are cleaned up periodically, but they'll never be perfectly accurate.

    I've got a kid registered to vote here and in California. So it would be possible for her to vote twice. But like 99.9999% of the population registered in two states, she doesn't.

    This is a crime that isn't being committed, but you girls want to disenfranchise people because it's possible for someone to commit it.

    My ballot gets signature checked, btw. Doesn't yours?
    And how do you know non-citizens aren't voting here in California Dazzler? Do they ever clean up the voter rolls by checking it against citizenship status Dazzler? And why was the party you vote for so opposed to do that?
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Voter rolls are cleaned up periodically, but they'll never be perfectly accurate.

    I've got a kid registered to vote here and in California. So it would be possible for her to vote twice. But like 99.9999% of the population registered in two states, she doesn't.

    This is a crime that isn't being committed, but you girls want to disenfranchise people because it's possible for someone to commit it.

    My ballot gets signature checked, btw. Doesn't yours?
    Lying liars lie.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


    Non-citizen immigrants to the US aren't all that eager to commit a pointless felony here. You girls love to talk about voter registration, you don't really want to talk about the number of times your fever dreams were actually realized by someone casting a ballot.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    Cause Cali is on it! Dazzler.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Voter rolls are cleaned up periodically, but they'll never be perfectly accurate.

    I've got a kid registered to vote here and in California. So it would be possible for her to vote twice. But like 99.9999% of the population registered in two states, she doesn't.

    This is a crime that isn't being committed, but you girls want to disenfranchise people because it's possible for someone to commit it.

    My ballot gets signature checked, btw. Doesn't yours?
    Lying liars lie.
    Jack Handy? That you?
  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,545 Standard Supporter
    edited February 2022
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


    Non-citizen immigrants to the US aren't all that eager to commit a pointless felony here. You girls love to talk about voter registration, you don't really want to talk about the number of times your fever dreams were actually realized by someone casting a ballot.
    How many non-citizens have been charged with voting in Cali? If you don't look for it, you won't find it. And if you don't have a data base of actual US citizens, then you can't find them. I know how anxious you are to have an actual citizen data base or have ICE distribute a list of illegal aliens that have been released to the states. I hear Newsom calling for that almost every day.

    Once again, trust isn't an internal control.
  • 46XiJCAB
    46XiJCAB Member Posts: 20,967
    HHusky said:

    46XiJCAB said:

    HHusky said:

    All sorts of internal checks? Like asking for proof of citizenship to register to vote? Those kind of internal checks? Or mandatory cleaning of voter rolls for dead voters and voters registered in multiple states? Or requiring proof of identity on mail in votes like signature checks? Geezus you suck at this. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.

    Voter rolls are cleaned up periodically, but they'll never be perfectly accurate.

    I've got a kid registered to vote here and in California. So it would be possible for her to vote twice. But like 99.9999% of the population registered in two states, she doesn't.

    This is a crime that isn't being committed, but you girls want to disenfranchise people because it's possible for someone to commit it.

    My ballot gets signature checked, btw. Doesn't yours?
    Lying liars lie.
    Jack Handy? That you?
    But Cali is all over it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


    Yep, the "internal control" is the honor system. We trust that when a person says they're a legal US citizen and signs the little card attesting to that, then they are telling the truth. That's it.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


    Non-citizen immigrants to the US aren't all that eager to commit a pointless felony here. You girls love to talk about voter registration, you don't really want to talk about the number of times your fever dreams were actually realized by someone casting a ballot.
    How many non-citizens have been charged with voting in Cali? If you don't look for it, you won't find it. And if you don't have a data base of actual US citizens, then you can't find them. I know how anxious you are to have an actual citizen data base or have ICE distribute a list of illegal aliens that have been released to the states. I hear Newsom calling for that almost every day.

    Once again, trust isn't an internal control.
    Few have been charged because nobody ever does it. Those "internal controls" are just too stringent
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,886
    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    Dodge and deflect

    I don't need to miss the 19th century when it was here in 2020

    Remember all the posts from the dazzler stressing the need for clean voting rolls, votes only by US citizens and by actual state residents and an auditable trail and clean internal controls? Me neither. But why would someone that has a mythical MBA be concerned with internal controls?
    There are all sorts of internal checks.

    That's why they were able to catch all those Republicans who voted for Daddy twice.
    Identify for us the "internal checks" here in California that keeps non-citizens from voting Dazzler. We've done this dance before, it ends badly for you.
    They check a box. The internal check is that everyone is honest and never cheats. Trust is the internal check. When I say mythical MBA, this is the proof. The dazzler wouldn't know an internal control if it hit him in the head.


    Non-citizen immigrants to the US aren't all that eager to commit a pointless felony here. You girls love to talk about voter registration, you don't really want to talk about the number of times your fever dreams were actually realized by someone casting a ballot.
    How many non-citizens have been charged with voting in Cali? If you don't look for it, you won't find it. And if you don't have a data base of actual US citizens, then you can't find them. I know how anxious you are to have an actual citizen data base or have ICE distribute a list of illegal aliens that have been released to the states. I hear Newsom calling for that almost every day.

    Once again, trust isn't an internal control.
    Few have been charged because nobody ever does it. Those "internal controls" are just too stringent
    In other words, you imagine it happens all the time.
  • greenblood
    greenblood Member Posts: 14,559

    I’m just hear to point out that the Trumpers constantly say shit like “it’s the law” to affirm their positions. It’s very funny how, when it’s inconvenient for them, somethings status as a law becomes irrelevant.

    So you would have been cool with freezing assets of protestors during the Summer of 20'? Didn't think so...schmuck