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  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    A whitefish? That's worse than a ditch pickle.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    Nice Kid N Play jacket on that angler.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 2022
    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    edited January 2022
    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    @YellowSnow and @dflea...to be clear I'm only kidding saying I'm ashamed. I'm well connected to my red neck roots still. I've killed untold numbers of fish just to do it. When I was a kid we used to drop iver the hill to the little Wind in the late spring and try to kill literally every one of the thousands of suckers in it. We'd snag them, spear them, or just smash them with rocks and watch them float away.

    It was wrong but I'm not ashamed. Nobody specifically told us not to...until my bully no-nonsense, logger dad got wind of it. Instead of flipping out he got strangely serious and made us feel really bad.

    I have plenty of friends who still pitch their foul hooked suckers and whitefish in the brush during springer season. My buddy who introduced me to the Deschutes and floated me down it a couple dozen times always wanted to pitch them, and probably does it to this day when I'm not there. I never said a word but he must've realized I didn't like it.

    No big deal. No judgment. You're not destroying the resource. I'd just recommend looking into mountain whitefish a bit and reevaluating how you feel about them.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
    I understand we fucked @Swaye on catch 'em big salmon. But we also gave 'em big Casino in Warm Springs. The latter is worth a lot more than fish, so say we Indian give on the fishing treaty rights.

    The hatchet packers are terrible for fisheries.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
    I understand we fucked @Swaye on catch 'em big salmon. But we also gave 'em big Casino in Warm Springs. The latter is worth a lot more than fish, so say we Indian give on the fishing treaty rights.

    The hatchet packers are terrible for fisheries.
    It's a big taboo to even suggest reevaluating the Columbia River treaties outside of quiet conversation. Done properly it would improve life and recreation and economics for everyone involved not to mention assuring that we still have fish to catch when we're rickety old men, but it will never happen.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,816 Founders Club
    Judge Boldt issued his ruling when I was in high school. The Nisqually Tribe was a big part of the protests. That's when my dad visited Dick Gregory in the Olympia jail

    I wrote a paper on the ruling that belongs in the Smithsonian

    It was a huge win. I don't see it changing

    Csb
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    I don't hate white fish. But they're a garbage fish. I don't know anyone without a fisheries degree - or chuck - that would put them on the same level as a trout, steelhead or salmon. Are they related? Yeah - but so are fish and humans. Look at the stupid face on that white fish. I'll say this - a 5 lb. white fish is gargantuan - but I still wouldn't take a photo that could be used as evidence.

    The Boldt decision is set in stone, as are the tribe's treaty fishing rights. The non-tribal whitey asshole commercial fishers are the ones that can fuck off. You want salmon for dinner? Then go catch it, buy one from a wagon burner, or eat a farmed fish, ya city fucksticks!

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    dflea said:

    I don't hate white fish. But they're a garbage fish. I don't know anyone without a fisheries degree - or chuck - that would put them on the same level as a trout, steelhead or salmon. Are they related? Yeah - but so are fish and humans. Look at the stupid face on that white fish. I'll say this - a 5 lb. white fish is gargantuan - but I still wouldn't take a photo that could be used as evidence.

    The Boldt decision is set in stone, as are the tribe's treaty fishing rights. The non-tribal whitey asshole commercial fishers are the ones that can fuck off. You want salmon for dinner? Then go catch it, buy one from a wagon burner, or eat a farmed fish, ya city fucksticks!

    There's little reason for white commercial fishing to exist in the Columbia any more, but they get a pretty small share compared to sport and tribal anyways.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Caught a couple steelhead fishing on the Salmon in Idaho.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Caught a couple steelhead fishing on the Salmon in Idaho.
    That should be i caught a couple whitefish while steelhead fishing.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.

    They live where all of those fish you mentioned live, except they are numerous and are there year round. They're considered a worthy game fish and good eating everywhere outside the PNW.

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038
    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club

    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.

    I've caught plenty of Whitefish in Idaho.

    Hurts the state IMHO.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,237 Founders Club
    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    Ironically, the only salmon I've ever caught on a fly rod, was a Coho.

    Off the beach in Mukilteo.

    The midget fish fucker, clam digger @dflea seems to have them dialed in.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited January 2022

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    Ironically, the only salmon I've ever caught on a fly rod, was a Coho.

    Off the beach in Mukilteo.

    The midget fish fucker, clam digger @dflea seems to have them dialed in.
    @dflea lives in river rodent central from what I've gathered. Satsop river, no?

    I've caught a couple of big males that looked cool, ate OK, but fought like a shoe just like every other coho in the columbia. I was glad. The best ones I've ever seenbor caught were on the peninsula...Queets, John and Soleduck. We used to do a week long slog up there in mid October every year. Camping and clams at Kalaloch and drift boating those three. Nicer coho up there than in the Columbia even when they aren't bigger. They hit better and fight better. Better genetics.
  • dflea
    dflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,287 Swaye's Wigwam
    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
    Note my other post where I granted that the peninsula has some respectable coho. All my scorn really should only be directed at the Columbia.

    Coho are pussies about barriers. They go into headwaters areas in low gradient systems. Whities are way up there above them. As far as getting over falls and through rough canyons, coho rank ahead of chum and pinks only. Even big, fat bodied chinook jump and climb better.
  • 1to392831weretaken
    1to392831weretaken Member Posts: 7,696
    chuck said:

    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
    Note my other post where I granted that the peninsula has some respectable coho. All my scorn really should only be directed at the Columbia.

    Coho are pussies about barriers. They go into headwaters areas in low gradient systems. Whities are way up there above them. As far as getting over falls and through rough canyons, coho rank ahead of chum and pinks only. Even big, fat bodied chinook jump and climb better.
    ISAFNRC
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2022
    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
    Coho are good to eat. But they are not big dick fish.

    I’ve been having the most fun in the past few years catching Kokanee.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited January 2022
    I don’t normally agree with ChuckHIV, but he’s right here re:whitefish.

    Disagree on that Coho are marginally good eating unless you’re a total fuck up at cooking.
  • dannarc
    dannarc Member Posts: 2,698
    I think the Covid was scrambling @chuck brain for a minute, looks like he recovered nicely with the comments about Coho. I grew up fishing Coho on light gear, wee dick nite spoons on the Snohomish, those fuckers will tear it up. Line burning runs with some aerials and good eating too. I don't mind white fish they are indeed an indicator of a healthy river system, i would never target them, but would never throw them on the bank either
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,038

    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
    Coho are good to eat. But they are not big dick fish.

    I’ve been having the most fun in the past few years catching Kokanee.
    The Throbber drinks Kokanee

    Fishing is boring.

  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam

    dflea said:

    chuck said:

    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    I think chuck's drunk or needs to catch more b-run coho on the peninsula. They aren't soft fighters - well, they can be, but that's not their reputation anywhere I've been. A fresh buck coho is an excellent eating fish, and coho are only lockjawed until the water cools and gets moving, then they destroy anything you put in front of them, with only occasional periods of lockjaw. I've eaten whitefish a number of times - it doesn't compare to saltwater-caught or late-season coho, IMO.

    Rugged? You can find coho in every little trickle of a creek way the fuck out in the middle of the woods because they bust their asses up every creek and stream that will hold them.

    I'm an oncorhynchus guy. What the hell is a prosopium? Fish with a stupid face?

    Fly guys. They just talk crazy sometimes.
    Coho are good to eat. But they are not big dick fish.

    I’ve been having the most fun in the past few years catching Kokanee.
    Kokanee are cool and delicious but that's one I've never tried fishing for. More of an old man pursuit or one for when there are no salmon or steelhead to be had.

    So thats what I should be doing with my time now...