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  • dfleadflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,979
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    A whitefish? That's worse than a ditch pickle.

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    Nice Kid N Play jacket on that angler.

  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that
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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,742
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    edited January 13
    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    YellowSnow
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    @YellowSnow and @dflea...to be clear I'm only kidding saying I'm ashamed. I'm well connected to my red neck roots still. I've killed untold numbers of fish just to do it. When I was a kid we used to drop iver the hill to the little Wind in the late spring and try to kill literally every one of the thousands of suckers in it. We'd snag them, spear them, or just smash them with rocks and watch them float away.

    It was wrong but I'm not ashamed. Nobody specifically told us not to...until my bully no-nonsense, logger dad got wind of it. Instead of flipping out he got strangely serious and made us feel really bad.

    I have plenty of friends who still pitch their foul hooked suckers and whitefish in the brush during springer season. My buddy who introduced me to the Deschutes and floated me down it a couple dozen times always wanted to pitch them, and probably does it to this day when I'm not there. I never said a word but he must've realized I didn't like it.

    No big deal. No judgment. You're not destroying the resource. I'd just recommend looking into mountain whitefish a bit and reevaluating how you feel about them.
    YellowSnowdflea
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,742
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    chuckSwayedflea
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
    SwayeYellowSnowLebamDawgdflea
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,742
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
    I understand we fucked @Swaye on catch 'em big salmon. But we also gave 'em big Casino in Warm Springs. The latter is worth a lot more than fish, so say we Indian give on the fishing treaty rights.

    The hatchet packers are terrible for fisheries.
    chuck
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Oh yes, I'm well familiar with the idiots at PGE and the @Swaye 's for skimming warm, polluted Crooked River water off the top of Lake Billy Chinook and putting it into the Deschutes.
    Don't worry. The Swayes will inundate the river with hatchery Chinook when everything else is gone and sell them to you for $20/lb on the round. You won't be able to fish or have anything worthwhile to fish for, but at least you'll have some warm, mushy Chinook to eat.
    I understand we fucked @Swaye on catch 'em big salmon. But we also gave 'em big Casino in Warm Springs. The latter is worth a lot more than fish, so say we Indian give on the fishing treaty rights.

    The hatchet packers are terrible for fisheries.
    It's a big taboo to even suggest reevaluating the Columbia River treaties outside of quiet conversation. Done properly it would improve life and recreation and economics for everyone involved not to mention assuring that we still have fish to catch when we're rickety old men, but it will never happen.
    dfleaYellowSnow
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 78,360
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    Judge Boldt issued his ruling when I was in high school. The Nisqually Tribe was a big part of the protests. That's when my dad visited Dick Gregory in the Olympia jail

    I wrote a paper on the ruling that belongs in the Smithsonian

    It was a huge win. I don't see it changing

    Csb
    chuckdflea
  • dfleadflea Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,979
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    I don't hate white fish. But they're a garbage fish. I don't know anyone without a fisheries degree - or chuck - that would put them on the same level as a trout, steelhead or salmon. Are they related? Yeah - but so are fish and humans. Look at the stupid face on that white fish. I'll say this - a 5 lb. white fish is gargantuan - but I still wouldn't take a photo that could be used as evidence.

    The Boldt decision is set in stone, as are the tribe's treaty fishing rights. The non-tribal whitey asshole commercial fishers are the ones that can fuck off. You want salmon for dinner? Then go catch it, buy one from a wagon burner, or eat a farmed fish, ya city fucksticks!

    YellowSnowdannarc
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    dflea said:

    I don't hate white fish. But they're a garbage fish. I don't know anyone without a fisheries degree - or chuck - that would put them on the same level as a trout, steelhead or salmon. Are they related? Yeah - but so are fish and humans. Look at the stupid face on that white fish. I'll say this - a 5 lb. white fish is gargantuan - but I still wouldn't take a photo that could be used as evidence.

    The Boldt decision is set in stone, as are the tribe's treaty fishing rights. The non-tribal whitey asshole commercial fishers are the ones that can fuck off. You want salmon for dinner? Then go catch it, buy one from a wagon burner, or eat a farmed fish, ya city fucksticks!

    There's little reason for white commercial fishing to exist in the Columbia any more, but they get a pretty small share compared to sport and tribal anyways.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,363
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Caught a couple steelhead fishing on the Salmon in Idaho.
    chuck
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    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 30,363
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    chuck said:

    chuck said:

    You guys think whitefish are trash fish?

    Man, I'm a little ashamed of my fellow fishermen.. Every bit as worthy as trout and salmon, and closely related too. They live on bugs, get as bug or typically bugger than trout. They bite readily and fight well. They're good to eat.

    It's not like we're talking about bass or pan fish here.

    If the whitefish disappear they'll take the trout with them and get replaced with catfish, carp, and smallmouth bass. In other words the Deschutes becomes the John Day. I'm assuming you don't prefer that

    In all seriousness, I've only ever chucked one white fish into the bushes in anger out of the many hundreds I've caught. I though I had a monster brown on and started crying when it was a whitey. I was young an immature and egged on my some bad egg, Mormon kids.

    But I ain't gonna lie, I get pissed every time I get one on and it's a whitey. They are just fugly with sucker fish mouths.

    Help me out here @chuck I'm out of my element here. How do whitefish keep REAL trash fish out of our trout rivers? I'm just a layman.
    They don't keep them out. They're an indicator though. A healthy watershed in the PNW has whitefish in it...period. When they're gone the trout will be too because they have the same requirements. You've probably heard about all the smallmouths invading the lower 25 on the Deschutes. Gurss what fish aren't there when those are there? Whitefish and trout.

    That's all. I've never understood the hate. I think they're cool and in most rivers, for most of the year, they are the only sizeable game fish present that are legal to go after.

    When summer steelhead are resting through the winter before spawning (summer steelhead rivers mostly close to fishing at the end of November), whitefish give one an excuse to go fishing and have some "incidental" catch and release chances on steelhead. I have friends who fly fish for them every winter with #6 or #8 stonefly nymphs. They'll get 2-3 whitefish for every steelhead. Fun stuff. Don't go bigger than #6 and try to tell a game warden you're after whitefish though.
    Caught a couple steelhead fishing on the Salmon in Idaho.
    That should be i caught a couple whitefish while steelhead fishing.
    chuck
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.

    They live where all of those fish you mentioned live, except they are numerous and are there year round. They're considered a worthy game fish and good eating everywhere outside the PNW.

    YellowSnow
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    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 26,742
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    what the is a whitefish?

    You talking perch? Or some other fuck fish like a northern pike?

    Cohos, silvers, cuthroats and rainbows or GTFO.

    I've caught plenty of Whitefish in Idaho.

    Hurts the state IMHO.
  • chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,834
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    Those are bitch ass perch. Worthless.

    Fuck perch.

    Perch are imvasive water rodents and live in warm cesspools. Whitefish are rugged, respectably large, and live in cold, swift mountain rivers, side by side and in harmony with those fish you named. The hate makes no sense.

    Coho (silvers) are soft fighting, marginally decent eating, and have lockjaw 99% of the time. They're trash fish everywhere south of British Columbia in my book. I wish I never had to see one again. I'd rather go nymphing for whitefish than waste my time targeting them.
    YellowSnow
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