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Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.
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Great cars. I’d never buy one.
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I think they're pretty handy. I won't buy something that's guaranteed to need major repairs (water pump, timing belt, head gasket) every 100k though. What a scam.YellowSnow said:Great cars. I’d never buy one.
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There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
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What’s a timing belt? My engine has a chain.chuck said:
I think they're pretty handy. I won't buy something that's guaranteed to need major repairs (water pump, timing belt, head gasket) every 100k though. What a scam.YellowSnow said:Great cars. I’d never buy one.
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In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries. -
This doesn't look like lesbian driving to me.AtomicDawg said:Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.
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Subaru motors are soft. Axe any WRX owner about turning up the boost.
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That’s what they want you to thinkdflea said:
This doesn't look like lesbian driving to me.AtomicDawg said:Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.
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And what it really is:JoeEDangerously said:
That’s what they want you to thinkdflea said:
This doesn't look like lesbian driving to me.AtomicDawg said:Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROM5xoodjrc
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The Throbber is a total lesbian. Completely wired to engage in naughty acts with women.
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But still, you’re no substitute for a peanut butter craving black Labrador retriever.PurpleThrobber said:The Throbber is a total lesbian. Completely wired to engage in naughty acts with women.
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My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.1to392831weretaken said:
In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries. -
My in-laws have had their 6-cylinder Outback for at least a decade now. No problems.YellowSnow said:
My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.1to392831weretaken said:
In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries. -
Yeah I think the current one they have is a 61to392831weretaken said:
My in-laws have had their 6-cylinder Outback for at least a decade now. No problems.YellowSnow said:
My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.1to392831weretaken said:
In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries. -
subaru must be a PNW thing
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What the fucking fuck??? Hey, change your oil or something1to392831weretaken said:
In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries. -
They are. Every time I've gotten out of one my takeaways are shit interiors and the doors feel like tin cans when you shut them.Pitchfork51 said:subaru must be a PNW thing
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Libarus with shitty tires ain’t shit on ice.huskyhooligan said: -
I learned how to drive in the snow in Idaho when I was a kid, it's not that hard. The shit you see on the roads when it snows in the Puget Sound region is truly mind-boggling.
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The compact snow and ice on the roads around my house the past few days has been pretty sketchy. First thing in the morning, when it's been cold out and not too many people have ventured out yet, it's been pretty easy to get down the road to where they have the roads plowed and sanded. But in the afternoon, with more fucktards on the roads, that 3-4 mile stretch got to be a big problem.
Yesterday, I was about 5 cars/trucks behind a box van that started spinning out on the ice trying to get up a hill you don't even notice unless it's covered in ice, and then everyone behind him went full retard and started going about 5 mph trying to get up the hill. I could see at least 2 of them weren't going to make it. I was trying to check up on the downhill approach to the hill they were all fucking up, but the buttmunch behind me got all crossed up with his brakes locked and looked like he might slide right into me. So I quick threw it into 4wd, got on the gas, and passed everyone still crossed up on the hill, narrowly missing one guy that looked motivated to spin it out completely, and then slowed back down. 3 miles, 2 minor hills - and almost clipped twice by people that just didn't look like they should be out on roads like that.
I'm ready for this shit to turn back to rain. I can go to the snow if I want it. It doesn't need to come here.
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I live two miles up a pretty steep hill. They usually plow the lower mile by mid morning, but either wait another day to do the mile long road I live on or don't do it at all. So, for three straight days I've had to break my own trail through 8-12" of fresh snow.dflea said:The compact snow and ice on the roads around my house the past few days has been pretty sketchy. First thing in the morning, when it's been cold out and not too many people have ventured out yet, it's been pretty easy to get down the road to where they have the roads plowed and sanded. But in the afternoon, with more fucktards on the roads, that 3-4 mile stretch got to be a big problem.
Yesterday, I was about 5 cars/trucks behind a box van that started spinning out on the ice trying to get up a hill you don't even notice unless it's covered in ice, and then everyone behind him went full retard and started going about 5 mph trying to get up the hill. I could see at least 2 of them weren't going to make it. I was trying to check up on the downhill approach to the hill they were all fucking up, but the buttmunch behind me got all crossed up with his brakes locked and looked like he might slide right into me. So I quick threw it into 4wd, got on the gas, and passed everyone still crossed up on the hill, narrowly missing one guy that looked motivated to spin it out completely, and then slowed back down. 3 miles, 2 minor hills - and almost clipped twice by people that just didn't look like they should be out on roads like that.
I'm ready for this shit to turn back to rain. I can go to the snow if I want it. It doesn't need to come here.
This morning it was the heavy, wet stuff sitting on top of the packed snow that never melted yesterday. Its treacherous.. Downhill in this shit can be pretty terrifying. Uphill in 4wd is a piece of cake but I really should throw a couple of chains on to get down. I limped part of the way in first gear this morning but still couldn't have stopped if I had to. -
I live about a half-mile up a paved road, which has a posted speed limit of 10 mph. It is comparable to a grand slalom run (not shitting you). Three days after moving in (5 years ago), it snowed. I was at that time commuting "across the pond" (ILTCIATP, IWILTD), and got up very early to check it out. I told myself "You grew up in E.WA, lived in Spokaloo for 15 years, and have a 4 wheel drive...don't be a pussy". I came out of the cul-de-sac (in low), turned to go down the hill, and slid for about 1000 feet...it seemed like 1000 miles. I got to a tree overhang and stopped to regain my composure, then went around a small sloping curve to the stop sign, blew right through it, and slid by the turn to go to the ferry.
I learned that morning to go up instead of down, and that is shaky with snow over ice. It's really steep, all the way to the top. Right now, it takes me 30 minutes to make a 7-8 minute commute...
Yesterday coming up the hill, 2 trucks and an SUV are crashed into trees near the bottom of the hill, on two different properties. Without the trees, they are going through people's living rooms...csb -
Or, you know, don't buy poorly designed vehicles. Wish I would have known. Honda knew they fucked over thousands. They still refused to take responsibility and issue a recall. They were sued, lost, and had to extend the warranty to people whose engines met the symptoms of the TSB.AOG said:
What the fucking fuck??? Hey, change your oil or something1to392831weretaken said:
In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).TXDawg said:There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.
As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
Thing is, it was all on me. Had I not plugged in a code reader, taken the codes to the forums, and found out there was a lawsuit and TSB, I would have been out of pocket for all of it due to being just out of warranty (39K) at the time of the first rebuild (re-ring three cylinders and reprogram the ECU). The dealer had no idea there even was a TSB and was going to bill for it all until I printed out the TSB and handed it to them. It was right about then that first one CV, then the other, started knocking when turning at slow speed. Dealer said they'd just watch it until the next major service.
At 70K, the engine started throwing codes again. Troubleshooting went as far as remote realtime monitoring from Torrance. Even they couldn't figure out what was wrong. They were going to replace the cylinder heads (what I wanted), then, at the last minute, they found the problem! One of the VTEC oil piston springs was slightly out of spec! $20 part was going to fix the whole problem!
I said, "This van said 22/28 mpg on the window sticker. We've been averaging 17 over the its lifetime. Parts wear on parts. You mean to tell me you're going to replace that $20 spring and everything's going to be magically durable? I want new cylinder heads."
Nope. Spring goes in, they replaced both axles while they were at it, and (three weeks after dropping it off) my wife goes to pick up the van ("we drove it all weekend, and it's all good as new!" they said). She calls me on the way home to say that it sounds funny, but she's not sure. I ask her to rev the engine and tell me if the sound follows the engine revs or follows the wheel speed. She can't tell, so I figure I'll just have a look when she gets home. She pulls into the driveway, I can already hear there's a huge problem from inside the house. Immediately get back in the van, drive it back to the dealer, park it right up against the service office door so the ruckus really echoes around, leave it "idling" and walk in to the counter. "Hey guys, thanks for the free diesel upgrade!"
Confused, the service manager opens the door and immediately yells, "OH MY GOD, SHUT IT OFF! SHUT IT OFF!"
I'm not exaggerating that it sounded like a diesel. I don't know how they drove it for three days and didn't catch that. But back into the shop for another two weeks it went. This time, the magical $20 part they found was a single valve rocker that was bent a little. It was going to be good as new again after that rocker was replaced!"
"Fuck you guys, take this POS back."
They wouldn't. American Honda even refused to make me a fair deal on a trade-up. When I questioned their shortsightedness on this, the rep in Torrance told me VERY smugly, "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."
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Pretty sure there are less Asian in Idahodigits said:I learned how to drive in the snow in Idaho when I was a kid, it's not that hard. The shit you see on the roads when it snows in the Puget Sound region is truly mind-boggling.
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Update...two more feet plus overnight. JFC I hate winter. I live here to not get this shit.
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I have an Audi Q7 with 200k on it. Had to replace some normal things. Rocker arms, shocks, water pump…but whatever. It might go another 200k. Interior is still like new.
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I said rocker arm, meant suspension control arm. Duh!MikeDamone said:I have an Audi Q7 with 200k on it. Had to replace some normal things. Rocker arms, shocks, water pump…but whatever. It might go another 200k. Interior is still like new.
I think Subarus are reliable and last a long time. That’s what I’ve been led to believe.
