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    chuckchuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,628
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    Great cars. I’d never buy one.

    I think they're pretty handy. I won't buy something that's guaranteed to need major repairs (water pump, timing belt, head gasket) every 100k though. What a scam.
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    TXDawgTXDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 818
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    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,959
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    chuck said:

    Great cars. I’d never buy one.

    I think they're pretty handy. I won't buy something that's guaranteed to need major repairs (water pump, timing belt, head gasket) every 100k though. What a scam.
    What’s a timing belt? My engine has a chain.
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    1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,313
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    TXDawg said:

    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.

    In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).

    Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.

    As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
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    dfleadflea Member Posts: 7,221
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    Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.

    This doesn't look like lesbian driving to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROM5xoodjrc
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,524
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    Subaru motors are soft. Axe any WRX owner about turning up the boost.
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    JoeEDangerouslyJoeEDangerously Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 6,150
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    dflea said:

    Dudes that drive subarus are typically lesbians.

    This doesn't look like lesbian driving to me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROM5xoodjrc
    That’s what they want you to think
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,865
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    The Throbber is a total lesbian. Completely wired to engage in naughty acts with women.

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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,959
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    The Throbber is a total lesbian. Completely wired to engage in naughty acts with women.

    But still, you’re no substitute for a peanut butter craving black Labrador retriever.
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 33,959
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    TXDawg said:

    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.

    In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).

    Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.

    As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
    My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.
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    1to392831weretaken1to392831weretaken Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,313
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    TXDawg said:

    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.

    In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).

    Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.

    As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
    My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.
    My in-laws have had their 6-cylinder Outback for at least a decade now. No problems.
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    TXDawg said:

    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.

    In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).

    Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.

    As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
    My mom is on her 4th Outback with not a single issue. But I think they get a new one like every 70k.
    My in-laws have had their 6-cylinder Outback for at least a decade now. No problems.
    Yeah I think the current one they have is a 6
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    subaru must be a PNW thing
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    AOGAOG Member Posts: 1,478
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    TXDawg said:

    There were some years that your could get a Subaru with a fully mechanical non-interference engine and a manual transmission that never died. Buddy of mine put something like 400k on his. It was built like a brick shithouse. After that, they went the way of Europeans and have expensive maintenance at regular intervals.

    In the last four years, I know of only three people who have faced major, expensive auto repairs. The first was me, with a Honda Odyssey that needed it's engine rebuilt three times and both axles replaced by 70K. Now, I have two friends that are/were looking at $9K repair bills: A 2014 F150 Ecoboost that needed a complete timing rebuild and both turbos replaced, and a 2017 Fusion Energi that needs a new transmission (he's since found an independent shop that'll throw in a reman for $5K).

    Honda, Ford, Ford. (And the only reason I got my F150 for $3500 was that the engine was blown at 140K miles, like thousands upon thousands of other 3-valve Ford modulars of that vintage.) My BMW was far cheaper and more reliable by comparison. I think it's a crapshoot these days. Everything is built incredibly precisely, so it's just a matter of whether there's a design flaw.

    As for Subarus, the the VRI up at Western consulted on the cylinder head design when they went to DOHC 4-valve heads. The boxer design has challenges with oiling and whatnot, but both they and Porsche have been making it work for a while. I test drove an Outback a bit over a decade ago when looking for a wagon, and I was shocked that any car of that vintage would actually struggle to get up a steep hill, but it was the 4-cylinder with the CVT, so maybe that's just too weak of a combo for the weight it carries.
    What the fucking fuck??? Hey, change your oil or something
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,524
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    subaru must be a PNW thing

    They are. Every time I've gotten out of one my takeaways are shit interiors and the doors feel like tin cans when you shut them.
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