Since this has become a WIAA classification thread, I would just like to ask if anyone knows how that actually works anymore. It can’t be just based off of enrollment like it used to be. There are shitty public schools with like 1500 kids that play in AA now while Catholic schools with half as many students play in AAA. To my knowledge AAAA is still based on enrollment. But it seems like the lower divisions are almost on a relegation system now.
At one time, schools could opt up, or down. When I was doing the HS thing, we would meet with the AD before reclassification and vote on it. We were AAA enrollment, but close enough to choose. Don't know if it's the same now...we always opted up.
Can't opt down, can opt up. A rule went in place a couple years ago that modifies headcount downward based on number of free/reduced lunches at a high school, can't remember the discount multiple. I guess you could think of that as an option to opt-down, but it is based on something. I'm guessing that's why Monroe was 3A this year, cuz that school is huge.
If you're talking about O'Dea re "half as many students," I think they are counted 2x because of boys-only enrollment.
#MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.
Lost to the only AA team we played that year. Just sayin' Cheers--
Olympia was probably 4 A by then
Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League
Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996. Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A. They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.
Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.
In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A. I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself. Cheers--
Way past my time
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
#MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.
Lost to the only AA team we played that year. Just sayin' Cheers--
Olympia was probably 4 A by then
Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League
Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996. Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A. They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.
Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.
In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A. I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself. Cheers--
Way past my time
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
To relate the prep gridiron hawt talk to the current shituation, I just hope we? get someone with experience coaching at the highest level in a football state.
#MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.
Lost to the only AA team we played that year. Just sayin' Cheers--
Olympia was probably 4 A by then
Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League
Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996. Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A. They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.
Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.
In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A. I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself. Cheers--
Way past my time
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
#MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.
Lost to the only AA team we played that year. Just sayin' Cheers--
Olympia was probably 4 A by then
Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League
Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996. Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A. They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.
Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.
In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A. I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself. Cheers--
Way past my time
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
#MyTBirds won state their first year jumping up to AAA.
Lost to the only AA team we played that year. Just sayin' Cheers--
Olympia was probably 4 A by then
Aberdeen was our rival in the legendary Southwest League
Close - that was fall '93 and the state didn't switch to calling it 4A until 1996. Confusingly, what was AAA became 4A, AA became 3A. They added a new 2A I assume from the bottom end of the old AA enrollment size.
Tumwater won the top classification, and Capital lost in the semis of the second highest classification, which was sweet too.
In 1997 they split the district when Black Hills opened, and THS dropped back down to 3A. A decade later they re-re-did classifications again and THS and co dropped to 2A. I know, CSB. I'll just go fuck myself. Cheers--
Way past my time
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
2A is the "best" football classification in Warshington, in a sense. Schools big enough to fill out varsity, JV and freshman teams, and communities small enough that football is a centerpiece. It's also got a couple of the most consistent powers, Lynden, Tumwater, Prosser, places like that.
This is a great take. Arlington and Marysville being in 3A feels like a punishment. Get to the tournament and know you will have to play a private school at some point and your season is essentially over.
The WESCO 3A bracket draws are almost always wretched. It's too bad, because WESCO probably has the best westside 3A community support, just not the quality of play to get far in playoffs in last decade or two.
2A has the perennials, and then a revolving group like Hockinson, Pullman, Sedro, Othello, etc. that rise up to make the classification more competitive at the state round o' 16 level.
Since this has become a WIAA classification thread, I would just like to ask if anyone knows how that actually works anymore. It can’t be just based off of enrollment like it used to be. There are shitty public schools with like 1500 kids that play in AA now while Catholic schools with half as many students play in AAA. To my knowledge AAAA is still based on enrollment. But it seems like the lower divisions are almost on a relegation system now.
At one time, schools could opt up, or down. When I was doing the HS thing, we would meet with the AD before reclassification and vote on it. We were AAA enrollment, but close enough to choose. Don't know if it's the same now...we always opted up.
Can't opt down, can opt up. A rule went in place a couple years ago that modifies headcount downward based on number of free/reduced lunches at a high school, can't remember the discount multiple. I guess you could think of that as an option to opt-down, but it is based on something. I'm guessing that's why Monroe was 3A this year, cuz that school is huge.
If you're talking about O'Dea re "half as many students," I think they are counted 2x because of boys-only enrollment.
Kennedy shares a neighborhood and stadium with Highline. Kennedy has 750 co-Ed students and competes at AAA. Highline has 1250 and competes in AA. Rainier Beach has the same number of students as Kennedy and also competes at AAA, despite having a much stronger sports program than Highline I would imagine they have similar numbers of free lunch recipients or whatever allows you to count fewer kids for sports.
Seems like you sort of get to play at whatever level you want.
Since this has become a WIAA classification thread, I would just like to ask if anyone knows how that actually works anymore. It can’t be just based off of enrollment like it used to be. There are shitty public schools with like 1500 kids that play in AA now while Catholic schools with half as many students play in AAA. To my knowledge AAAA is still based on enrollment. But it seems like the lower divisions are almost on a relegation system now.
At one time, schools could opt up, or down. When I was doing the HS thing, we would meet with the AD before reclassification and vote on it. We were AAA enrollment, but close enough to choose. Don't know if it's the same now...we always opted up.
Can't opt down, can opt up. A rule went in place a couple years ago that modifies headcount downward based on number of free/reduced lunches at a high school, can't remember the discount multiple. I guess you could think of that as an option to opt-down, but it is based on something. I'm guessing that's why Monroe was 3A this year, cuz that school is huge.
If you're talking about O'Dea re "half as many students," I think they are counted 2x because of boys-only enrollment.
Kennedy shares a neighborhood and stadium with Highline. Kennedy has 750 co-Ed students and competes at AAA. Highline has 1250 and competes in AA. Rainier Beach has the same number of students as Kennedy and also competes at AAA, despite having a much stronger sports program than Highline I would imagine they have similar numbers of free lunch recipients or whatever allows you to count fewer kids for sports.
Seems like you sort of get to play at whatever level you want.
#MyLancers have been trying to put a stadium on campus for about 5 years now but the neighboring homeowners are fighting it. At one time, at least 4 schools used Highline Stadium between Highline, Evergreen, #MyLancers, and Tyee.
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If you're talking about O'Dea re "half as many students," I think they are counted 2x because of boys-only enrollment.
I know Tumwater was a great program. And the Ottens. And Brad in 1995 at Husky Stadium.
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2A has the perennials, and then a revolving group like Hockinson, Pullman, Sedro, Othello, etc. that rise up to make the classification more competitive at the state round o' 16 level.
Seems like you sort of get to play at whatever level you want.