Do we need another thread to remind people? Russiagate has no rock bottom

Goduckies

2001400ex said:

Goduckies said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Here's what I think Hondo. I think that Trump was already in the cross-hairs of the Obama Admin late in 2015 and early 2016. I think they had already set in motion ways that they could monitor Trump in order to assist Hillary by early 2016. I know that Hillary paid for the Dossier. And I know that an official investigation into Trump wasn't opened until the DOJ and FBI had been given the Dossier. I know that when they first applied for a FISA warrant they did so without using the Dossier and they were turned down. Something that is very rare. When the re-applied they used the Dossier as a source and it was granted. Claiming that the Dossier wasn't important to Trump being investigated is the real fucking lie here and it's one you've told for years Hondo.

Speaking of lies, do you still tell the lie that the Dossier was first paid for by Republicans? Because that's another lie you told for years and I haven't ever seen where you admitted that you were lying out your ass when you made that claim Hondo.

Lil lyin Bob.

Investigations
The FBI Operation Crossfire Hurricane investigation into Russian interference, which started on July 31, 2016, was not triggered by the dossier,[44][42][43][88] but the dossier is still the subject of the Russia investigation origins counter-narrative, a conspiracy theory pushed by Trump and Fox News.

The Mueller Report, a summary of the findings of the Special Counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections, contained passing references to some of the dossier's allegations but little mention of its more sensational claims. It was a major subject of the Nunes memo, the Democratic rebuttal memo,[2] and the Inspector General report on the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

The investigations led to Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson being interviewed in August 2017 by Congress.[3]

John Durham has been investigating whether FBI agents "mishandled classified information" about operation Crossfire Hurricane when they questioned Steele. The IG report documents that a case agent mentioned Papadopoulos to Steele. The FBI has no "established guidelines for how to address the disclosure of sensitive or classified information to sources", and the Inspector General "concluded that the case agent should not be faulted".[352]

Durham sought to get more information by seeking access to evidence gathered in a British lawsuit filed by the founders of Alfa-Bank. A July 21, 2020, court filing shows that Durham has sought the lifting of "a protective order on evidence that had been gathered". Politico wrote that legal experts said this move was "highly unusual... and suggests the British government was not involved in, or cooperating with, Durham's criminal investigation".[352]

Conspiracy theories
The Russia investigation origins counter-narrative[353] is a right-wing alternative narrative,[354][355] sometimes identified as a conspiracy theory,[356][357][358] concerning the origins of the Special Counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. These conspiracy theories[359][360] have been pushed by Trump,[44] Fox News,[45] GOP politicians like Representative Jim Jordan (R-Ohio),[359] and Trump's Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe.[361] In May 2019, U.S. Attorney General William Barr appointed John Durham to perform an inquiry based on this conspiracy theory, an inquiry described as a cover-up to protect Trump.[362][363] On November 2, 2020, the day before the presidential election, New York magazine reported that:

... there has been no evidence found, after 18 months of investigation, to support Barr's claims that Trump was targeted by politically biased Obama officials to prevent his election. (The probe remains ongoing.) In fact, the sources said, the Durham investigation has so far uncovered no evidence of any wrongdoing by Biden or Barack Obama, or that they were even involved with the Russia investigation. There 'was no evidence ... not even remotely ... indicating Obama or Biden did anything wrong,' as one person put it.[364]
The conspiracy theory aims to prove the dossier was used as an excuse for the FBI to start their Russia investigation. It also aims to discredit Steele and thus discredit the whole investigation.[365] The dossier could not have had any role in the opening of the Russia investigation on July 31, 2016, as top FBI officials received the dossier the following September.[366] Instead, it was the activities of George Papadopoulos which started the investigation.[367] The investigation by Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz into Russian interference and alleged FISA abuses found that "none of the evidence used to open the [original Crossfire Hurricane FBI] investigation" came from the C.I.A. or Trump–Russia dossier.[43]

The founders of Fusion GPS did not expect their connections to Bruce and Nellie Ohr, Steele, Hillary Clinton, and the FBI to "become public and subsequently provide the framework for a deep-state conspiracy theory".[59]

The dossier also figures as part of the Spygate conspiracy theory and conspiracy theories related to the Trump–Ukraine scandal. According to The Wall Street Journal, President Trump's actions in the Trump–Ukraine scandal stemmed from his belief that Ukraine was responsible for the Steele Dossier.[368][369] Trump has insinuated that the dossier had its origins in Ukraine, that the Clintons were involved, that Hillary Clinton's email server is currently secreted in Ukraine,[370] and that Clinton's deleted emails are in Ukraine.[357]

The dossier is central to Republican assertions that Trump is the victim of an intelligence community conspiracy to take him down. Democrats see this focus on the dossier as conspiratorial.[371] Congressman Devin Nunes, a staunch Trump defender, asserted as fact that the dossier originated in Ukraine during his questioning of EU ambassador Gordon Sondland during the Trump impeachment inquiry hearings in September 2019.[372]

Matt Gaetz and Jim Jordan have pushed a conspiracy theory that the dossier was based on Russian disinformation.[356] The Inspector General's investigative team and the FBI did examine this possibility, but Bill Priestap explained to the OIG that the FBI found no indications that such disinformation affected the dossier, and that it would make no sense for the Russians to undermine Trump.[38]



And I've stated that Republicans and the Washington free beacon were paying fusion GPS until Trump was nominated. And Hillary started paying them around the time the Republicans stopped. I've also stated that Republicans started the dossier which is incorrect. Fusion started the dossier after Hillary engaged them.

June is when Hillary talked to Obama about setting up Trump Russia crap, shocking they fbi opened the investigation then, shocking

So you agree that Bob is a liar and the dossier didn't trigger the Russian investigation.

It didn't trigger it, no, but it was used to get thr Fisa Warrants. What triggered it was crap given to the FBI from Hillary's bought and paid for Lawyer to create a new narrative.