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If Lake is fired, who’s in the candidate pool?

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  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555

    lawsandl said:

    Furthermore, @GreenRiverGatorz , UW is 14th nationally in your futuristic hyper-advanced defensive FEI ratings. Good try.

    The defense is good. It’s not great and far from elite.

    Never meant to imply that the defense was great. I'm implying that it would be better if our offense was worth 1/2 of a shit. It's like clockwork every week. The script is known. Teams get ahead and start running knowing that our offense can't sustain anything. They continue to pound until we're gassed and they start chunking. I could write the gameplan against UW. It's child's play. The defense doesn't deserve immunity but they don't deserve to be raked over the coals like the offense does. Not even close. We're a ranked team with even an average offense and the whole narrative is different. Dono and DyMo need to be shot into space, never to be seen or heard from again, god willing.
    Oregon was making 3-5 yards in the first half. We would’ve been better off not even passing. Good rush defenses stop a rushing attack dead in its tracks in the 1st quarter.
  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,358

    What are the key metrics then?

    Don’t know where we rank in the stats but some are listed below. Probably have acronyms different but the analytic nerds can sort this out if needed. When Oregon played with tempo total yards and ppg was a worthless stat as an example. They had good defenses some Years but never had the rep. I thought most understood this. We shorten the game so our totals are all less….

    -Points per possession
    -Yards per play
    -points given up when the game is within one score
    -% of yards given up vs yards to gain vs down
    -3rd and 4th down conversion %
    -turnovers caused

  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    It’s not cherry picking that is a list for Arizona or WSU. This is not the time for your low expectations bullshit.
    This is not on brand for you… WTF.

    You’re a doog and then come up with a list that doesn’t include nick saban.

    Did you get some perspective on your sabbatical?
    Can't reply to the correct post? Combined with your clueless statement I see that your Dumbfuck of the Day title remains unchallenged.

    Still waiting on @FremontTroll 's suggestions. Edge of my seat shit. The tension is palpable.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited November 2021
    ntxduck said:

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    It’s not cherry picking that is a list for Arizona or WSU. This is not the time for your low expectations bullshit.
    The post was framed around being realistic you dipshit. Not sure what your pie in the sky expectations are. Cristobal himself was a no-name hire that was trash as an HC previously. The only way we get a household name HC at UW is MAYBE if Petersen becomes AD or something. Please list your candidates so I can laugh them off the face of the earth.
    This is not on brand for you… WTF.

    You’re a doog and then come up with a list that doesn’t include nick saban.

    Did you get some perspective on your sabbatical?
    The Cristobal was trash as a hc previously is weird. Easily the most successful coach in fiu program history. Going 8-5 at fiu is more impressive than going 11-1 at Oregon.
    It’s another case of looking at raw stats and looking no further. People should go look at his coordinators during his tenure there too. If Cristobal does anything elite outside of recruiting, it’s assembling a staff. I also like his roster management.

    He and Lake were vying for worst game clock management yesterday though.
  • Tripper_Johnson
    Tripper_Johnson Member Posts: 200

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    Maybe we can get Central Washington’s coach to come on with Taylor and Browning can be the offensive coordinator. Seriously GTFO.
  • Katie Sowers sounds like a top candidate for Cohen
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited November 2021
    ntxduck said:

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    It’s not cherry picking that is a list for Arizona or WSU. This is not the time for your low expectations bullshit.
    The post was framed around being realistic you dipshit. Not sure what your pie in the sky expectations are. Cristobal himself was a no-name hire that was trash as an HC previously. The only way we get a household name HC at UW is MAYBE if Petersen becomes AD or something. Please list your candidates so I can laugh them off the face of the earth.
    This is not on brand for you… WTF.

    You’re a doog and then come up with a list that doesn’t include nick saban.

    Did you get some perspective on your sabbatical?
    The Cristobal was trash as a hc previously is weird. Easily the most successful coach in fiu program history. Going 8-5 at fiu is more impressive than going 11-1 at Oregon.
    27-47. Much wow.

    The point is good coaches can come from anywhere, even ones that have been shit previously (like Cristobal). Armchair AD @FremontTroll thinks we can get Urban Saban and that UW is above getting Sitake or DeBoer. Those guys must be amateurs because they're at BYU and Fresno State. UW would never stoop so low as to hire a coach from BYU, Fresno State, or Boise State. This is THEE University of WASHINGTON. Coaches at those types of schools are peasants and could never fit in with a program of UW's incredible prestige.
  • lawsandl
    lawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
    edited November 2021

    ntxduck said:

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    It’s not cherry picking that is a list for Arizona or WSU. This is not the time for your low expectations bullshit.
    The post was framed around being realistic you dipshit. Not sure what your pie in the sky expectations are. Cristobal himself was a no-name hire that was trash as an HC previously. The only way we get a household name HC at UW is MAYBE if Petersen becomes AD or something. Please list your candidates so I can laugh them off the face of the earth.
    This is not on brand for you… WTF.

    You’re a doog and then come up with a list that doesn’t include nick saban.

    Did you get some perspective on your sabbatical?
    The Cristobal was trash as a hc previously is weird. Easily the most successful coach in fiu program history. Going 8-5 at fiu is more impressive than going 11-1 at Oregon.
    27-47. Much wow.

    The point is good coaches can come from anywhere, even ones that have been shit previously (like Cristobal). Armchair AD @FremontTroll thinks we can get Urban Saban and that UW is above getting Sitake or DeBoer. Those guys must be amateurs because they're at BYU and Fresno State. UW would never stoop so low as to hire a coach from BYU, Fresno State, or Boise State. This is THEE University of WASHINGTON. Those coaches are peasants.
    You realize the starting point was the worst FBS program in the country, right? He won more games every year until he was the Sun Belt conference champion. He was fired because of rash of injuries to star players and in the Sub Belt where you can’t recruit depth, that’s a problem.

    FIU fans said his firing was a huge mistake. That team literally had no facilities.
  • CallMeBigErn
    CallMeBigErn Member Posts: 8,028
    edited November 2021

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    Maybe we can get Central Washington’s coach to come on with Taylor and Browning can be the offensive coordinator. Seriously GTFO.
    Right, because my argument was to hire Troy Taylor. I made a list of potential candidates that have had some HC success and may be looking up, you fuckwit. Get back on the field, Trip. We need you out there.
  • ntxduck
    ntxduck Member Posts: 6,231

    ntxduck said:

    If we're being realistic and want an experienced HC with west coast-ish ties who may not jump at the earliest opportunity, I'm looking at the following...

    Top? options: Sitake, DeBoer, Matt Entz (North Dakota State HC, least west coast ties of all listed here)

    Slightly under the top? options, but an argument could be made: Choate, Troy Taylor (Sac State HC and passing game savant. Could be good for Huard), Aaron Best (EWU HC), Brent Vigen (Montana State HC, took over for Choate, first year HC)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalani_Sitake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalen_DeBoer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Entz

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Choate
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Taylor_(American_football)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Best
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Vigen

    Ffs Troy Taylor was run out as the OC at Utah and you want to consider him at Uw? His scheme and qb nearly killed Britain covey and scored a total of 1 TD in 2 games on us that year before he was told to LEAVE!
    Okay, cherry-pick the example that doesn't make sense to you. I'm throwing it out there. Being a first-time OC for Whittingham is much different than being a HC. You know that. Taylor is doing very well at Sac State. Not saying he's my top choice by any means, but I wouldn't use his Utah first-time OC experience and Britain Covey's deaths as barometers for his HC abilities.
    It’s not cherry picking that is a list for Arizona or WSU. This is not the time for your low expectations bullshit.
    The post was framed around being realistic you dipshit. Not sure what your pie in the sky expectations are. Cristobal himself was a no-name hire that was trash as an HC previously. The only way we get a household name HC at UW is MAYBE if Petersen becomes AD or something. Please list your candidates so I can laugh them off the face of the earth.
    This is not on brand for you… WTF.

    You’re a doog and then come up with a list that doesn’t include nick saban.

    Did you get some perspective on your sabbatical?
    The Cristobal was trash as a hc previously is weird. Easily the most successful coach in fiu program history. Going 8-5 at fiu is more impressive than going 11-1 at Oregon.
    27-47. Much wow.

    The point is good coaches can come from anywhere, even ones that have been shit previously (like Cristobal). Armchair AD @FremontTroll thinks we can get Urban Saban and that UW is above getting Sitake or DeBoer. Those guys must be amateurs because they're at BYU and Fresno State. UW would never stoop so low as to hire a coach from BYU, Fresno State, or Boise State. This is THEE University of WASHINGTON. Coaches at those types of schools are peasants and could never fit in with a program of UW's incredible prestige.
    Took over an 0-12 program who’s Coaches offices were FEMA portable trailers. Got them to 8-5, best season in that awful program's history to that point. Took a step back the following year and got canned by an AD who didn’t like that Mario threw him under the bus by calling out how the AD wasn’t committed to funding a winning program.