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Help us Ana Mari Cauce. You're our only Hope. (Derek Johnson article)

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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,222
    Marginally technically gifted writing

    Agreed with the balance of the article other than the political shots (distracting from the message … allows an out to tune out the article) and the coaching/AD choices (that’s for another time/place)
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    I guess it begs the question whether or not the piece was meant to be taken seriously by the Pres of the UW or if it's more for fun.
  • BleachedAnusDawg
    BleachedAnusDawg Member Posts: 13,723 Standard Supporter
    I didn't think the political mentions were a problem. They seemed self-deprecating and intended to disarm Cauce.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,695 Founders Club

    I didn't think the political mentions were a problem. They seemed self-deprecating and intended to disarm Cauce.

    Hopefully, she does have a sense of humor were she to read it.
  • StLouisDawg
    StLouisDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 560 Founders Club
    Overall good. But the “portrait mis-perceived” seems over wrought. Cauce at worst vaguely dislikes football, but definitely understands it’s an asset to a university. One of a hundred competing priorities, sadly.
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,733 Founders Club

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
  • CFetters_Nacho_Lover
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 32,691 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She’s an academic?
  • DerekJohnson
    DerekJohnson Administrator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 69,733 Founders Club
    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
  • Mad_Son
    Mad_Son Member Posts: 10,194

    Mad_Son said:

    More than once in the last week or two I've seen you've admirably maintained the free speech policy here while criticizing a post for crossing a line and, in doing so, weakening the argument. I'm paraphrasing, but, "Calling the university president a dyke or the AD a fat bitch isn't the tone you want if you want your argument taken seriously."

    This article seems like something you'd like to be taken seriously, so I'd follow your own advice and ditch the Trump/Warren stuff, even in reference to what others might think. It's possible to prioritize academics way above football (the horror!) without it being a political thing. It's also possible to be a leftist woman who's in charge of a football machine, and we'll have the proof if the new Ohio State president doesn't drive that program off a cliff.

    Yes it's possible, but it's more likely than not that a leftist woman is not going to be a football fan. But I appreciate your sincere feedback.
    What makes her a leftist? I haven't looked into her political background.
    She has stated that her worldview was largely shaped by her late brother, who was a communist activist. He was reportedly killed by white supremacists 30-40 years ago. She has written that when the Charlottesville thing happened about four years ago, it shocked her and made her recommit even further to diversity and equity in our society.
    I'm not sure that supporting diversity and equity makes you a leftist...