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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    RaceBannon said:

    Kwat left for the money. Long term he probably makes more here because Sark will can his ass to save his own if he has too and he will

    Whatever. The solution for UW lies forward not backwards

    Not sure he makes more here. Anyway his contract is guaranteed
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    FireCohen said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Kwat left for the money. Long term he probably makes more here because Sark will can his ass to save his own if he has too and he will

    Whatever. The solution for UW lies forward not backwards

    Not sure he makes more here. Anyway his contract is guaranteed
    He is old and probably wouldn’t mind retiring if this fails.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    GreenRiverGatorz said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    The K/Lake scheme of how they play defense has had the book exposed

    Run the ball down their throats until they adjust … can do it via both the spread and by running power

    The scheme works great when you have ELITE DL play comparatively to your opponent … but when you don’t you get gashed

    I’m sure some of this is needing more time to get players but it’s not a great look …

    Also, don’t underestimate how important pace is to substantiating BS stats like 35 points or less … Jimmy’s living on that stat right now but most games you’re looking at 8-10 possessions in the game max

    I was first and right.

    You and other doogs sucked off K as he left.
    You didn't talk shit about K until he was gone. Because you're an insufferable doog.
    Nope. Dumb shits like you kept pumping up K in 2018 and talking about how the defense was worse under Jimmy while it 1) actually held Stanford off 2) won a conference championship getting 3 fucking points from Pete.

    Then when we turned over our personnel in 2019 it got louder, even though our offense was even worse. At least 2018 could run the ball and eat clock from time to time.

    2020 K is back and it sucks, then he leaves while talking shit and sucks at Texas with more talent.

    Not hard to understand. At all.

    But like fatters ntx and the rest you're going to start crying and calling people doogs now, because you've got nothing else.
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  • Ice_Holmvik
    Ice_Holmvik Member Posts: 2,912
    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,675 Swaye's Wigwam
    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,800 Founders Club
    Yeah I think I'd trade rosters straight up with Texas right now. Its not a talent issue there. Never is quite honestly.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    edited October 2021
    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.
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  • HFNY
    HFNY Member Posts: 5,386
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.

    Are you speculating that Jimmy convinced Cohen that he just needs different coordinators or is that what you have heard / know?

    And I would guess that Kwat and Lake had a falling out. Kwat tolerated Lake's self-promotion under CP but probably couldn't stand working under him. Why not double your salary and not have to work as hard at recruiting?
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    HFNY said:



    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.

    Are you speculating that Jimmy convinced Cohen that he just needs different coordinators or is that what you have heard / know?

    And I would guess that Kwat and Lake had a falling out. Kwat tolerated Lake's self-promotion under CP but probably couldn't stand working under him. Why not double your salary and not have to work as hard at recruiting?
    Lake has an ego and Lake has told Jenn that he needs more help in recruiting and coordinators.

    It's Sark all over again..credit Damone. He was right.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.
    . Don’t make me go bump that thread that talks about it being in UW’s best interest to move on from Jimmy Lake … who said that again?
    Please bump or link.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    This isn’t the original … but it drives home the point pretty well

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/44682/the-lake-is-hurting-uw-theory-stop/p1
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    edited October 2021
    Tequilla said:

    This isn’t the original … but it drives home the point pretty well

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/44682/the-lake-is-hurting-uw-theory-stop/p1

    That thread is a black eye for dnc and Dennis DY.

    @dnc
    @Dennis_DeYoung
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.
    Did I ever say that K would make a huge difference? Nope

    What I’ve said is K leaving was an indictment in Jimmy and the perceived (from the inside) direction of the program … it was a vote of no confidence in Jimmy … and to think they were friends

    I’ve been saying that there were defensive issues in this program for at least a couple of years highlighting that the book was out on us to sink and dump your way down the field by staying ahead of the chains … our defense doesn’t win enough on early downs

    Jimmy’s convinced who that he needs new coordinators? If he gets 2022 and throw coordinators under the bus, that’s not going to him convincing anybody … it’s going to be the AD not prepared to buyout $14M worth of contracts

    Don’t try to lecture me about how you were first or whatever … both you and PGOS are idiots that talk bigger games than you bring to the table. Don’t make me go bump that thread that talks about it being in UW’s best interest to move on from Jimmy Lake … who said that again?
    "Did I ever say" is the counterpoint of retards. Always has been.

    You thought K was great. Same with Coker and Dennis. Thought all these Pete recruits were the tits.

    All have been failures.
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    HFNY said:



    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.

    Are you speculating that Jimmy convinced Cohen that he just needs different coordinators or is that what you have heard / know?

    And I would guess that Kwat and Lake had a falling out. Kwat tolerated Lake's self-promotion under CP but probably couldn't stand working under him. Why not double your salary and not have to work as hard at recruiting?
    Lake has an ego and Lake has told Jenn that he needs more help in recruiting and coordinators.

    It's Sark all over again..credit Damone. He was right.
    So you’re just running your mouth

    1) Jimmy hired his staff and a big part of the reason he has a shit staff is because he has a shit network that can’t find people wanting to work for him … that’s only more true now that the book on Jimmy is out

    2) Jimmy’s got a long way to hold Sark’s jock as a HC … forget how shitty Sark is … he can coach circles around Jimmy
    Jimmy hired this staff. No shit.

    You can't make a point to save your life.

    Logic isn't your thing. Better go for the masters in Math.
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.
    Did I ever say that K would make a huge difference? Nope

    What I’ve said is K leaving was an indictment in Jimmy and the perceived (from the inside) direction of the program … it was a vote of no confidence in Jimmy … and to think they were friends

    I’ve been saying that there were defensive issues in this program for at least a couple of years highlighting that the book was out on us to sink and dump your way down the field by staying ahead of the chains … our defense doesn’t win enough on early downs

    Jimmy’s convinced who that he needs new coordinators? If he gets 2022 and throw coordinators under the bus, that’s not going to him convincing anybody … it’s going to be the AD not prepared to buyout $14M worth of contracts

    Don’t try to lecture me about how you were first or whatever … both you and PGOS are idiots that talk bigger games than you bring to the table. Don’t make me go bump that thread that talks about it being in UW’s best interest to move on from Jimmy Lake … who said that again?
    "Did I ever say" is the counterpoint of retards. Always has been.

    You thought K was great. Same with Coker and Dennis. Thought all these Pete recruits were the tits.

    All have been failures.
    Blah blah blah … deflect deflect deflect

    You put words in my mouth I didn’t say … you got called on it … and instead of a mea culpa you act like the bitch that you are

    Regardless of what happened yesterday, K’s track record says that he’s at worst a Top 10 DC in the country and in reality he’s closer to Top 5. Go ahead and hold to your recency bias …

    As for recruits, there’s plenty of talent on this roster. What do you think is more likely …

    1) Players suck?

    2) Players aren’t being put in positions to be successful?

    Given success of UW players in the NFL recently … I know which one I’m going with as there has been a decided downturn in coaching and development
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  • haie
    haie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 23,696 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    haie said:

    Tequilla said:

    chuck said:

    Ice_Holmvik said:

    Maybe he needs a little tim to get personel on board and lined out. Id not write him off half way thru season 1. (Kwat not Jimmy)

    Sark teams don’t play good defense. Simple fact. It doesn't matter who he hires.

    Kwat didn't make a bad move though. UW is a sinking ship and it was probably pretty plain to see from the inside.
    K wouldn’t have left UW if everything was moving smoothly here

    Regardless of the mechanics of how … reality is Jimmy didn’t give K a choice in staying
    So? That doesn't mean that K was going to make a difference. Which is what doogs like you and Sonics kept saying when he left.

    We have a bad staff. No denying that. 2nd worst minimum in a conference of bad staffs.

    Like you copied from me, our scheme is stale now that every Pac team except USC wants to run the ball.

    We need a complete reset, but Jimmy has convinced the AD that he just needs different coordinators even though he picked the current ones.
    Did I ever say that K would make a huge difference? Nope

    What I’ve said is K leaving was an indictment in Jimmy and the perceived (from the inside) direction of the program … it was a vote of no confidence in Jimmy … and to think they were friends

    I’ve been saying that there were defensive issues in this program for at least a couple of years highlighting that the book was out on us to sink and dump your way down the field by staying ahead of the chains … our defense doesn’t win enough on early downs

    Jimmy’s convinced who that he needs new coordinators? If he gets 2022 and throw coordinators under the bus, that’s not going to him convincing anybody … it’s going to be the AD not prepared to buyout $14M worth of contracts

    Don’t try to lecture me about how you were first or whatever … both you and PGOS are idiots that talk bigger games than you bring to the table. Don’t make me go bump that thread that talks about it being in UW’s best interest to move on from Jimmy Lake … who said that again?
    "Did I ever say" is the counterpoint of retards. Always has been.

    You thought K was great. Same with Coker and Dennis. Thought all these Pete recruits were the tits.

    All have been failures.
    Blah blah blah … deflect deflect deflect

    You put words in my mouth I didn’t say … you got called on it … and instead of a mea culpa you act like the bitch that you are

    Regardless of what happened yesterday, K’s track record says that he’s at worst a Top 10 DC in the country and in reality he’s closer to Top 5. Go ahead and hold to your recency bias …

    As for recruits, there’s plenty of talent on this roster. What do you think is more likely …

    1) Players suck?

    2) Players aren’t being put in positions to be successful?

    Given success of UW players in the NFL recently … I know which one I’m going with as there has been a decided downturn in coaching and development
    😆

    K's a top 10 DC.

    Clearly.

    👍
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    And Leach is an offensive genius.
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  • GreenRiverGatorz
    GreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,165
    CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

    Can someone update the rocket launcher gif and replace @Ballz with @haie?

    We're better off letting our rabid pitbull run amok in the duck refuge and not letting him back inside this board of higher discussion and insight.
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  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    Tequilla said:

    This isn’t the original … but it drives home the point pretty well

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/44682/the-lake-is-hurting-uw-theory-stop/p1

    Its funny reading back people ( @Dennis_DeYoung ) excusing Lake's shitty recruiting all the way back in 2017 because he was a "lame duck"
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Houhusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    This isn’t the original … but it drives home the point pretty well

    https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/44682/the-lake-is-hurting-uw-theory-stop/p1

    Its funny reading back people ( @Dennis_DeYoung ) excusing Lake's shitty recruiting all the way back in 2017 because he was a "lame duck"
    The lame duck was the genesis of my controversial or infamous comment

    I can understand and appreciate the reasons behind a struggle … but you fix the issues or you move on

    Not rocket science
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  • AtomicDawg
    AtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,330
    KrunkJuice said:

    Joel Klatt just ripped Texas for playing 2 high safeties when it was an obvious running situation (Got gashed for 25). Kwats defense has given up over 175 yds in the 4th qtr and have given up 19 2nd half pts. Sark being Sark once again. Blowing a 24-13 lead to start the 4th.

    Starting to see the common denominator in any success kwat and lake had.
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  • LawDawg1
    LawDawg1 Member Posts: 3,942
    AtomicDawg said:

    KrunkJuice said:

    Joel Klatt just ripped Texas for playing 2 high safeties when it was an obvious running situation (Got gashed for 25). Kwats defense has given up over 175 yds in the 4th qtr and have given up 19 2nd half pts. Sark being Sark once again. Blowing a 24-13 lead to start the 4th.

    Starting to see the common denominator in any success kwat and lake had.
    It’s almost the same as all of Pete Carroll’s assistants
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