95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
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Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
You literally have no way of knowing either of these. You are assuming them when they are hypothetical at best.
Most asthmatics I know before the shot had real issues... I'm fat and have asthma, I am prime for major issues with the vid and I had a 2 day cold.... the vaccine worked period
To be clear, I have no problem with anyone that decides it's in their best interests to get the jab. Sounds like @Goduckies made an appropriate choice given his circumstances.
Both my parents have it bc they are high risk. My only point is that your singular experience and what you are drawing from it are hypothetical and specious.
My wife is an asthmatic as well but for other medical reasons(and bc we already had covid) can't take the vaccine. Her doctor informed her though that the medications she's already on are likely therapeutics against Covid. Maybe you are in a similar boat, maybe you aren't.
This is all about freedom of choice and people deciding what's best for themselves.
95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
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Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinated
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supply
Even HCQ was shown to be effective if given in the first 3 or 4 days of the virus BEFORE it reached the lungs. Big Pharma put a quick stop to that shit with their orders to their puppets at CDC to say "Tylenol only" and Good Luck.
95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
Sure.gif
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinated
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supply
I think the real answer is patented drugs versus generics. No money in generics, thus, very little research in the U.S. or Europe - the very reason Fauci and the Big Pharma Cabal point to as a reason to ignore therapeutics and steer everyone to Big Pharma's jabs.
95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
Sure.gif
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinated
What percentage is going home? How many patients are admitted for observation (which means big federal $$)? And why can't doctors at urgent care clinics and regular doctor's offices prescribe the same therapeutics those hospitalized patients will receive and 99% will go home with?
Fair questions I do agree they need to step up with treatment before hospitalization. I was able to get the monoclonal antibodies without hospitalization, so that is a step in the right direction there. As to why they can't, my guess is limited supply
Even HCQ was shown to be effective if given in the first 3 or 4 days of the virus BEFORE it reached the lungs. Big Pharma put a quick stop to that shit with their orders to their puppets at CDC to say "Tylenol only" and Good Luck.
I'm not arguing against hcq
It's the out-patient, non-hospitalized, early intervention treatments they AREN'T doing that I'm talking about here. Even the suggestion that therapeutics were available to treat covid got steamrolled by the CDC and it's lying bastard minions in the mainstream media that likely killed 100k people or more by sending them home with Tylenol or hooking them up to a vent instead of treating them with off-label drugs that Big Pharma's Bitch, aka the CDC, told people didn't work.
When a variant blows up in a place where no outpatient treatment is sanctioned, the hospitals are of course going to fill up. That doesn't mean ipso facto that vaccinations are the answer or the cure. We all know they're a mitigation measure with varying degrees of effectiveness, at best.
95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
Sure.gif
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
Actually, the main killer is being old or fat and diabetic.
Well yes, but it attacks the lungs
I've encouraged you to look at how asthma sufferers are fairing against Covid. You seem to not want to look. There are studies out there. I too have asthma so I've done some reading. You would feel much better if you did. It's not a auto death sentence. Hell when I tried to schedule a vaxx appointment, I didn't even qualify until all adults qualified, even with asthma. Apparently we didn't make the top-10 of comorbidities. COPD is another story.
I've done reading and heard from a bunch that had a hard time.
So they survived just like you did. Isn't that the bottom line here.
95% efficacy. Yet I know more vaxed people who have gotten it than unvaxed. Are we being lied to?
It's anecdotal but at this point the only people I know getting it are vaxed. I'd say my peer group is between 60%-75% vaxed. Not a single unvaccinated person has gotten it that I know but I know 20-30 people who are vaxed that have had it in the last six months or so.
It's all an eyeball test but it does make me wonder when combined with the Israeli numbers.
I’ll take Fake News and Total Lies to justify shitty behavior for $1000 please Alex
Sure.gif
Look at the Israeli case numbers, how's that possible with a 90% plus vaccinated rate?
I live in California, the only people unvaccinated are minorities, why are vaccinated Whyte peeple still getting so many cases?
I also prefaced it with being my experience and anecdotal. It's fine, I get you might not understand why that matters.
Simple vaccines only make you immune for a while then it degrades... especially Pfizer, that's the one I got and I got covid.... that's why a booster is important.... but the vaccine did its job, no fever or lung issues which is the main killer.
That wasn’t the selling point. How many months did you function with no vaccine onboard and not get covid? Did you radically change your daily activities after you were vaccinated? How many months/weeks before you tested positive?
I did change after being vaccinated as I have asthma so I was very careful before after not so much and I got it. But was minor whereas if I wasn't vaccinated I would have been very sick
And it was 6 months... so looks like it blocked it for a long while and finally stopped working. Also why they recommend the booster. And yes as a uber driver in CDA I was exposed every day.
Dude, the virus has morphed and it's outrunning the vaccines. Take your booster if you need to, but it's likely to be one of several more, until the assholes at the NIH and CDC start smelling the coffee and telling the truth.
Take a look at kootenai hospital and who is in there. It isn't the vaccinated
Kootenai is fucked because they brought in a new CEO who screwed with the staff. A bunch left
Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation. Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
The CDC is an absolute corrupt, failed gov't org. No treatment plan whatsoever. I blame DIMS for their attacks on "horse paste" and HCQ in order to own Trump. They have blood on their hands. No debating it.
Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation. Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
...and if any Docs were allowed to practice medicine without Big-Pharma-driven mandates from their state or the feds, your wife would've likely been sent home with a prescription to be filled at the local Safeway, and she'd be fine in a few days.
Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation. Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
Why did they send her to emergency for mild symptoms? She needs a new doctor.... mine got me signed up for the antibodies and I stayed home unless it got bad.
Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation. Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
Why did they send her to emergency for mild symptoms? She needs a new doctor.... mine got me signed up for the antibodies and I stayed home unless it got bad.
If it gets into the lower respiratory system it can become very serious, that’s no joke. O2 sat levels can plummet, hypoxia and worse can happen. Thankfully this tends to be the exception, the overwhelming majority of those who develop COVID avoid this degree of illness.
Wife has had some very mild symptoms since before my diagnosis last Friday. She finally decided to call her Dr. who sent her for testing. Tested positive. Dr. sent her to Kootenai Health emergency for further testing and treatment. 6 hours in emergency and she came home with no treatment but lots of advice and consultation. Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
Why did they send her to emergency for mild symptoms? She needs a new doctor.... mine got me signed up for the antibodies and I stayed home unless it got bad.
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Both my parents have it bc they are high risk. My only point is that your singular experience and what you are drawing from it are hypothetical and specious.
My wife is an asthmatic as well but for other medical reasons(and bc we already had covid) can't take the vaccine. Her doctor informed her though that the medications she's already on are likely therapeutics against Covid. Maybe you are in a similar boat, maybe you aren't.
This is all about freedom of choice and people deciding what's best for themselves.
When a variant blows up in a place where no outpatient treatment is sanctioned, the hospitals are of course going to fill up. That doesn't mean ipso facto that vaccinations are the answer or the cure. We all know they're a mitigation measure with varying degrees of effectiveness, at best.
Now, you knew the rest of the story.
The argument is authoritarian state vs individual choice.
Oh, and likely a $6K bill.
Bad, how?
If it gets into the lower respiratory system it can become very serious, that’s no joke. O2 sat levels can plummet, hypoxia and worse can happen. Thankfully this tends to be the exception, the overwhelming majority of those who develop COVID avoid this degree of illness.
Will go kill my self. It's for the greater good.