The Kraken has been released
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I see you didn't read the article. you're the second loser moron commie bitch to post it. Recounting all votes including illegal votes isn't an audit. How do you remember to breathe?
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Didn't need a second thread
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Two of the 3 stooges accounted for.
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Tax policy expert and an audit aficionado. Need a job?
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I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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God love ya Kobe!
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If I recounted a winning poker hand with the exact cards that were thrown on the table by all the players, I'd get exactly the same cards that were thrown down.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
you need to look up the dealer's sleeve for the extra ace.
Recounts do jack shit. Make the dealer wear short sleeves.
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The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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Given the fact that you're such an incredible fucking pussy and coward on an anonymous message board Kobe, you probably should just shut the fuck up when it comes to accusing anyone else of cowardice.TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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Until all of the Newspapers print the Hunter emails, I'm going to remain neutral on the AZ audit.
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brentsfsSFGbob said:
Given the fact that you're such an incredible fucking pussy and coward on an anonymous message board Kobe, you probably should just shut the fuck up when it comes to accusing anyone else of cowardice.TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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If we're bashing cowards, that means you're out.TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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@TheKobeStopper is a fan of long sleeved dealers.Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
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As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly. -
Does the future hold more emotionally and mentally fragile people like yourself that don't know anything?TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
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If there were fraud with regards to mail in voting and ballot harvesting by the LEFT, because they have no history of cheating, Chicago, the Newspapers would have printed it by now. Come on guys, just stop.
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Mail in voting invites voter fraud and allows the Rats to harvest the ballots of people who normally wouldn't go to the polls. The Rats have a hammer lock on the dumbass vote and the apathetic vote. Getting their voters or the voters who would be inclined to vote for them to the polls on election day has always been tougher for the Rats than it is for the GOP. Mail in ballots, that are mailed to every registered voter, are a god send to the Rat party.
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I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours. -
Thank you for your service.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours. -
Your bravery in believing that voter fraud happens sometimes is noted.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
It is funny that it’s almost always Trumper’s getting caught committing voter fraud and you never say shit about that. But the “potential” is scary. What a hero. -
Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
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Did anyone not know that this would be the response?Sledog said:I see you didn't read the article. you're the second loser moron commie bitch to post it. Recounting all votes including illegal votes isn't an audit. How do you remember to breathe?
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They cheated. Everyone knows this except you rose colored glasses wearing communists.HHusky said:
Did anyone not know that this would be the response?Sledog said:I see you didn't read the article. you're the second loser moron commie bitch to post it. Recounting all votes including illegal votes isn't an audit. How do you remember to breathe?
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pawz said:
Thank you for your service.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
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I don't want fraud on either side. Mail in voting allows the possibility of fraud on both sides. I've never claimed otherwise. That's why I like in person with ID voting. That system can be tricked as well, but it at least makes it a bit more difficult.TheKobeStopper said:
Your bravery in believing that voter fraud happens sometimes is noted.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
It is funny that it’s almost always Trumper’s getting caught committing voter fraud and you never say shit about that. But the “potential” is scary. What a hero.
Lastly, thank you for noting my heroism. I am pretty awesome. Glad you noticed. -
Yup my really good professor at Oregon hated vote by mail because of the fraud potential... he may have been a liberal, but he was a good liberal.... it also is ripe to coercion as well...Swaye said:
I don't want fraud on either side. Mail in voting allows the possibility of fraud on both sides. I've never claimed otherwise. That's why I like in person with ID voting. That system can be tricked as well, but it at least makes it a bit more difficult.TheKobeStopper said:
Your bravery in believing that voter fraud happens sometimes is noted.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
It is funny that it’s almost always Trumper’s getting caught committing voter fraud and you never say shit about that. But the “potential” is scary. What a hero.
Lastly, thank you for noting my heroism. I am pretty awesome. Glad you noticed. -
I don't know how much fraud occured.
I do know that there are plenty of smart, non tin foil hat nuts that have raised serious questions and inconsistencies. Also, the Dimocrats are acting guilty. I don't know that much about MC ones, but in Pima County, they're as corrupt as fuck. I've dealt with the machine personally. Raul Grijalva, his daughter, Vagina Romero, and their little machine are rotten as fuck, and everyone shrugs and goes along with it.
Anyway, not to thread jack, but since millions have doubts, this should be seen all the way through. -
I love that you were a political science major.Goduckies said:
Yup my really good professor at Oregon hated vote by mail because of the fraud potential... he may have been a liberal, but he was a good liberal.... it also is ripe to coercion as well...Swaye said:
I don't want fraud on either side. Mail in voting allows the possibility of fraud on both sides. I've never claimed otherwise. That's why I like in person with ID voting. That system can be tricked as well, but it at least makes it a bit more difficult.TheKobeStopper said:
Your bravery in believing that voter fraud happens sometimes is noted.Swaye said:
I have always been consistent that while I do not know how much or how little fraud is occurring, SOME amount is occurring, and mail in voting only exacerbates that problem. To not see how sending millions of ballots out to addresses, and then expecting that all those ballots are only filled out by the prescribed person in accordance with the law is naive in the extreme. It invites fraud. The future with mail in voting does possess the potential for MASSIVE amounts of voter fraud. Will it happen? I don't know. But I am in the camp that says you shouldn't open the door to find out. Again, I have always been consistent in this opinion, and have absolutely no idea how those firmly held beliefs could be construed as cowardly.TheKobeStopper said:
As shocking as Race’s turn to full blown fascist has been, I gotta say, I’m most disappointed with you becoming an enlightened centrist. You did say that Swaye and then you said this:Swaye said:
I assume this isn't directed at me since I said right in my statement that "I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything."TheKobeStopper said:
The cowardice to predict the crime you’re accusing people of can’t be proven.Swaye said:I said very early on that doing recounts would do nothing. This is a point of sale "crime." Catch it there or it won't be caught. I have no idea how much fraud occurred or didn't occur with mail in voting and ballot harvesting, etc., but recounting ballots isn't ever going to change anything. You fix election security BEFORE elections, not after. And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
And with mail in voting here to stay, I'll give everyone 3 guesses as to what the future holds.
So what does the future hold? An undeterminable amount of voter fraud? More predicting crimes that you can’t prove? 100% this shit is cowardly.
To be frank, I'll put my bravery, in both beliefs and deeds, up against 99% of this country any day of the week. And certainly up against yours.
It is funny that it’s almost always Trumper’s getting caught committing voter fraud and you never say shit about that. But the “potential” is scary. What a hero.
Lastly, thank you for noting my heroism. I am pretty awesome. Glad you noticed. -
That's exactly why the Dims flooded the country with mail in ballots using the excuse of the intentionally released virus as the reason.Fire_Marshall_Bill said:I don't know how much fraud occured.
I do know that there are plenty of smart, non tin foil hat nuts that have raised serious questions and inconsistencies. Also, the Dimocrats are acting guilty. I don't know that much about MC ones, but in Pima County, they're as corrupt as fuck. I've dealt with the machine personally. Raul Grijalva, his daughter, Vagina Romero, and their little machine are rotten as fuck, and everyone shrugs and goes along with it.
Anyway, not to thread jack, but since millions have doubts, this should be seen all the way through.
It's a plan.
They cheat.
