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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 30,841
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    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    No deaths in Shitbagastan for 18 months under Trump. Taliban knew they'd get smoked. Our exit would have been orderly, safe and we wouldn't leave people or weapons behind. How shitty must you be to support the killing of our soldiers, allies and rearming ISIS and the Taliban?

    Fuck you and every other commie loving piece of shit on this planet.

    Many more deaths to come.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,874
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    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.



    $87 Billion of arms left behind is quite the skid mark.
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    greenbloodgreenblood Member Posts: 14,279
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    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
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    GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,358
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    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
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    GoduckiesGoduckies Member Posts: 5,358
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    Just wait until China takes Taiwan... I'd be scared if I was over there... we are fuked.
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    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    Okay you need some assistance. I was referring to the intentionally botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. My bad for not spelling it out.
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    Fenderbender123Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,867
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    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    Even if Afghanistan wasn't in the news, it's still bizarre to me how news stories like this suddenly become popular. Thousands of people go missing every year. Thousands of people are murdered every hear. You're always seeing shit getting shared around Facebook, too. But for some reason, this story is just suddenly massively popular. Why? I refuse to follow it any longer because of this.
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    Sounds like you're advocating for toxic masculinity. Obama and Biden have rightfully been getting rid of that
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    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    Even if Afghanistan wasn't in the news, it's still bizarre to me how news stories like this suddenly become popular. Thousands of people go missing every year. Thousands of people are murdered every hear. You're always seeing shit getting shared around Facebook, too. But for some reason, this story is just suddenly massively popular. Why? I refuse to follow it any longer because of this.
    Anybody know what Elizabeth Smart is up to these days?
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    UWerentThereManUWerentThereMan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,475
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    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    Even if Afghanistan wasn't in the news, it's still bizarre to me how news stories like this suddenly become popular. Thousands of people go missing every year. Thousands of people are murdered every hear. You're always seeing shit getting shared around Facebook, too. But for some reason, this story is just suddenly massively popular. Why? I refuse to follow it any longer because of this.
    Anybody know what Elizabeth Smart is up to these days?
    She's stuck in a well
    Deserves own thread?
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    hardhat said:

    Was she vaccinated?

    Drastically under-chinned.
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    BleachedAnusDawgBleachedAnusDawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 10,527
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    I heard on the radio yesterday that the US has FOURTY-FOUR 4-star generals right now to command a military of 1.5 million soldiers (ballparking that off of memory). During WW2 the US had seven 4-star generals commanding a military of 12 million+ soldiers. It's no wonder things can't get done in an efficient manner. Another example of the Federal gov't bloat on our slow march to socialism.
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    hardhat said:

    Was she vaccinated?

    Covid death
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,064
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    I heard on the radio yesterday that the US has FOURTY-FOUR 4-star generals right now to command a military of 1.5 million soldiers (ballparking that off of memory). During WW2 the US had seven 4-star generals commanding a military of 12 million+ soldiers. It's no wonder things can't get done in an efficient manner. Another example of the Federal gov't bloat on our slow march to socialism.
    There is a lot of truth here. The issue is Congress has decreed that a bunch of combatant commands MUST have a 4 star. They don't need them. A 3 star could easily do it. In my world you have about a dozen 4 stars, about 3-4 dozen 3 stars, and then several dozen 1-2 stars - this is across ALL services. The bloat is real.
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    Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,601
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    Swaye said:

    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    I heard on the radio yesterday that the US has FOURTY-FOUR 4-star generals right now to command a military of 1.5 million soldiers (ballparking that off of memory). During WW2 the US had seven 4-star generals commanding a military of 12 million+ soldiers. It's no wonder things can't get done in an efficient manner. Another example of the Federal gov't bloat on our slow march to socialism.
    There is a lot of truth here. The issue is Congress has decreed that a bunch of combatant commands MUST have a 4 star. They don't need them. A 3 star could easily do it. In my world you have about a dozen 4 stars, about 3-4 dozen 3 stars, and then several dozen 1-2 stars - this is across ALL services. The bloat is real.
    To become a 4 star you have to be a woke woman though. Those should be the rules
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    And that's by design. Warfighters who tell it like it is aren't too keen on turning the military into the Trannie pride parade.
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    RoadTripRoadTrip Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 7,244
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    Swaye said:

    Goduckies said:

    HuskyJW said:

    I don't know... Afghanistan is completely out of the news and the nation is focused on this tragedy. I don't know.

    This

    I remember you talking about Afghan news and beating drum for years on here.
    I'm relatively new here, but generally the conservatives wanted out of Afghanistan years ago. There was no beating of the forever war drum. But the MSM and your president barry told us that Afghanistan was the good war. He was supported by the neocons who hated/hate Trump. If you don't want to win a war, then don't fight it. The "news" is the feckless removal of the American military and leaving $85 billion of war equipment behind prior to the orderly evacuation of American citizens and those Afghans who provided direct support to the US. Then there were the 13 dead marines because the Americans voluntarily turned over Kabul to the Taliban and trusted them for security and getting Americans to the airport. Then toss in the dementia patient's wave the dog moment by offing some Afghan US aid worker and his Toyota full of water bottles along with 7 kids and then proclaiming it was a righteous hit. The incompetence shown by the dementia patient and his advisors at the top levels of State and the military should concern real Americans. Keep rooting for the away team.
    You keep telling yourself there are no casualties or sacrifices in war zones. Exiting Afghanistan was going to be a mess no matter of the exit date.
    You’re telling me it was smart to remove the military before the citizens? If Biden was hell bent on the removal, fine. Get the citizens out months prior, start removing equipment, vehicles, artillery, planes, etc. After all that, then you remove the military personnel. This is elementary shit here. Fucking this up, should disqualify a person as president.
    The question I have is how the fuck was Milley ok with it... dude should be court martialed
    Milley is just a careerist piece of shit who sucks whatever dick is in front of him. This is why having yes men in the JCS is a BAD idea. You need real warfighters who will tell it like it is. We have a severe lack of those now.
    I heard on the radio yesterday that the US has FOURTY-FOUR 4-star generals right now to command a military of 1.5 million soldiers (ballparking that off of memory). During WW2 the US had seven 4-star generals commanding a military of 12 million+ soldiers. It's no wonder things can't get done in an efficient manner. Another example of the Federal gov't bloat on our slow march to socialism.
    This was also discussed in an excellent Tucker interview with Colonel Doug McGregor I believe. More deep state grift. At this point, the debt and coming inflation is so out of control the Reset is one of, if not, the last plays the federal reserve and global elite have left.
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