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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527
    edited September 2021
    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    oh no

    You can see where this all becomes a slippery slope all over right?
    I agree. Should be just a straight vaccine mandate.
    How does that make sense?

    There are people that can’t get vaccinated … how do you suggest that works?

    I’d ask about how you consider those that have religious (or related) objections … but I suspect you don’t have any pity on that

    Moreover, there’s lots of data out there comparing what’s going on in Israel and Sweden …

    We know the vaccinations help … but it would appear that the vaccine isn’t a long term solution per se
    But the vaccine is a present solution to becoming seriously ill or dying. There are virtually no cases of fully vaccinated people dying from breakthrough infections unless their health was already precarious. If everyone would get vaccinated, we could get back to normal for now at least.

    But at the same time, as someone vaccinated, why should I care about somebody else being vaccinated or not?
    For at least the same reason we cared about antibiotics being over prescribed. Because the acts or omissions of others can increase the ability of the infective organism to mutate and become resistant to our medicines.
    And as others have noted …

    Vaccinated individuals aren’t immune from getting COVID or spreading it

    Is there really evidence that COVID won’t continue to mutate? Data would suggest that it will
    No one has to help Covid's process of mutation along by voluntarily serving as a petri dish. And while vaccinated people are not necessarily immune, that is true of all vaccinations. No reason to make improvement the enemy of perfection.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 24,527

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    oh no

    You can see where this all becomes a slippery slope all over right?
    I agree. Should be just a straight vaccine mandate.
    How does that make sense?

    There are people that can’t get vaccinated … how do you suggest that works?

    I’d ask about how you consider those that have religious (or related) objections … but I suspect you don’t have any pity on that

    Moreover, there’s lots of data out there comparing what’s going on in Israel and Sweden …

    We know the vaccinations help … but it would appear that the vaccine isn’t a long term solution per se
    But the vaccine is a present solution to becoming seriously ill or dying. There are virtually no cases of fully vaccinated people dying from breakthrough infections unless their health was already precarious. If everyone would get vaccinated, we could get back to normal for now at least.

    But at the same time, as someone vaccinated, why should I care about somebody else being vaccinated or not?
    For at least the same reason we cared about antibiotics being over prescribed. Because the acts or omissions of others can increase the ability of the infective organism to mutate and become resistant to our treatments.
    This is stupid on at least two levels

    Over prescribing anti biotics is bad

    The same applies to what we are seeing with this vax everyone approach

    Resistant strains

    H went to Central
    Who's gonna tell Salk?
  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,264
    Alexis said:

    The state of Washington has approximately 7.61 million people.
    Number of vaccinations administered in the State of WA since 1/16/21 (The date of the first vax) 9.78 million

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA prior to any vaccinations: approx 3600

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA after vaccinations started: approx 3400

    So, seems like we could blame the the fairly small number of unvaxxed magatards, (In King County it is currently less than 15%) or, like any sane person would do, we could point to the fact that the fucking vaccine is as worthless as John Donovan.

    People are also much more free moving in 2021 than they were the first 9 months of the pandemic in 2020
  • doogie
    doogie Member Posts: 15,072
    edited September 2021
    hardhat said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    oh no

    You can see where this all becomes a slippery slope all over right?
    I agree. Should be just a straight vaccine mandate.
    How does that make sense?

    There are people that can’t get vaccinated … how do you suggest that works?

    I’d ask about how you consider those that have religious (or related) objections … but I suspect you don’t have any pity on that

    Moreover, there’s lots of data out there comparing what’s going on in Israel and Sweden …

    We know the vaccinations help … but it would appear that the vaccine isn’t a long term solution per se
    But the vaccine is a present solution to becoming seriously ill or dying. There are virtually no cases of fully vaccinated people dying from breakthrough infections unless their health was already precarious. If everyone would get vaccinated, we could get back to normal for now at least.
    The case that was presented to us was 70% vaccinated. We're now nearly there, at 63%. We should definitely have those that are vulnerable due to age or comorbidity vaccinated. Any thoughts on what that means for kids under 12?
    Embrace the power of A-N-D

    And everyone should be on a prophylactic of Vit C,D And Zinc just like the evolving science has now lead NIL to conclude this is a smart thing to do.

    AND you should consider other methods, supplements, drugs, habits, behaviors, food, exercise,, etc, that you have discussed with your own personal care provider(s) to establish what is best for you, personally.

    For some of you, this may or may not include repurposed FDA approved, widely used drugs with a known safety profile.

    It sounds like most people just get the vaccine and cross their fingers.

    And you should make your own personal choice(s) on how to proceed in this minefield.

    People like dazzler have nothing to say about it.
  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club
    edited September 2021
    HHusky said:

    Tequilla said:

    HHusky said:

    oh no

    You can see where this all becomes a slippery slope all over right?
    I agree. Should be just a straight vaccine mandate.
    How is that working for the JEWWWS ?!









    Not well.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPLLdLzept4

  • Alexis
    Alexis Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 3,457 Founders Club
    Tequilla said:

    Alexis said:

    The state of Washington has approximately 7.61 million people.
    Number of vaccinations administered in the State of WA since 1/16/21 (The date of the first vax) 9.78 million

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA prior to any vaccinations: approx 3600

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA after vaccinations started: approx 3400

    So, seems like we could blame the the fairly small number of unvaxxed magatards, (In King County it is currently less than 15%) or, like any sane person would do, we could point to the fact that the fucking vaccine is as worthless as John Donovan.

    People are also much more free moving in 2021 than they were the first 9 months of the pandemic in 2020
    They're also more vaccinated
  • Dude61
    Dude61 Member Posts: 1,254
    Alexis said:

    Tequilla said:

    Alexis said:

    The state of Washington has approximately 7.61 million people.
    Number of vaccinations administered in the State of WA since 1/16/21 (The date of the first vax) 9.78 million

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA prior to any vaccinations: approx 3600

    Number of covid deaths in the State of WA after vaccinations started: approx 3400

    So, seems like we could blame the the fairly small number of unvaxxed magatards, (In King County it is currently less than 15%) or, like any sane person would do, we could point to the fact that the fucking vaccine is as worthless as John Donovan.

    People are also much more free moving in 2021 than they were the first 9 months of the pandemic in 2020
    They're also more vaccinated
    And many with natural immunity.